Fwd: Roundcube merger - Ideas from atmail

oleg oleg at olegs.com
Wed Jul 26 17:14:53 CEST 2006

Just a link to show they have a leg up on RC, they're not so small it seems... take it how you will.


On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 09:17:49 -0400, Brett Patterson <brett at bpatterson.net> wrote:
> Thomas Bruederli wrote:
>> Hi everybody,
>> Just wanted to forward a mail I've got yesterday and would like to
>> hear your opinions about this topic. Either this could make RoundCube
>> grow faster or atmail just wants to get rid of some (more and more
>> serious) competition.
>> Don't panic, I didn't decide anything yet and I don't want to get rich
>> anyway :-)
>> Regards,
>> Thomas
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Ben Duncan
>> Date: 25.07.2006 09:06
>> Subject: Roundcube merger - Ideas from atmail
>> To: roundcube at gmail.com
>> Hello Thomas,
>> Ben Duncan here, I emailed you earlier this year about doing some
>> consulting work for @Mail in Australia but it seemed you were busy.
>> Just as a quick intro, I'm the founder of @Mail, a
>> WebMail/Email-server project I first started in 1998. We are based in
>> Australia and run a business with about 6 people, supporting the @Mail
>> product as our main focus. Our site is at: http://atmail.com/
>> We'd like to propose a business deal to merge Roundcube with our @Mail
>> product. In summary we'd like to fork an open-source version of @Mail,
>> and use the current Roundcube product as leverage for the open-source
>> offering. We would then continue developing @Mail as the full
>> commercial copy with added features; while running a decent quality
>> open-source version as incentive for people to use our commercial
>> copy.
>> We can offer you a reasonable fee to purchase the license of
>> Roundcube, the site,  and for the effort you have contributed to the
>> project. We'd also be very interested if you could spear-head the
>> development of our open-source @Mail product that would be merged into
>> Roundcube and offered to the open-source community.
>> If you are available we'd love you to consult our company in Australia
>> for 1-3 months on the development of @Mail and merging the two
>> products for the open source offering. We could propose a deal for the
>> merger and pay you for consulting our company for the desired time
>> you'd like to visit Australia.
>> Let me know if you are open to any business deals, and I can submit a
>> proposal for you.
>> Kind regards,
>> Ben Duncan
> Wow.... that's all I can say....
> This stinks to high heaven to me.... and it looks like something
> Microsoft would do to Linux ;)  I personally love Roundcube, and I've
> tried @mail (just to gauge the competition) and @mail has some nicer
> features that aren't in Roundcube yet.  So it *could* be beneficial for
> RC to move that way.  On the other hand, there is stuff like too much
> junk in the interface that makes it terrible to use, and just plain slow.
> I would hate to see RC be "bought out" even though it technically
> can't.  Just the brand can be bought.  The code is solidly GPL.  But if
> they buy the brand, we start a fork, and we change domain names... no
> big deal.  Although I'd be ticked after getting the forum up and running
> having to switch names, themes and such.... :(
> Thomas, you do as you want.  But to me, it seems like they see you as
> being a true competitor when RC reaches it's first real release.  While
> we won't have the feature list they have (POP, Customization) we've got
> a leg up on them: 30gigs.com is using RC as their webmail.  I don't know
> anyone that uses @mail currently.
> Don't think too lightly on this one.... really weigh out what would
> happen to RC... I see nothing good coming of this....
> ~Brett

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