new behaviors after CVS upgrade

phil phil at
Thu May 18 21:07:47 CEST 2006

On Thu, 18 May 2006 15:51:11 -0300, Martin Marques <martin at> wrote:
> On Mon, 15 May 2006 14:31:45 -0400, Brett Patterson - Roundcube Forum
> Admin <brett at> wrote:
>> But I believe Charles' argument is that this is a Web Desktop
>> application, not just another webmail project.  So it's meant to emulate
>> a desktop app on the web.  I haven't noticed it, so I can't comment, but
>> I can say that moving the selection to the next item is what I like in
>> Thunderbird.  Perhaps this can be user definable: Move to next item on
>> delete: Yes/No.
> I still don't agree with this behavior. It looks totally unnatural. But I
> thought maybe it's just MHO, so I starting asking mail users (and a par of
> programmers that work with me) about the behavior of the mail client, and I
> have to say that I couldn't find one that would think the behavior is OK.
> One user said that "the selection is an action that the user should do,
> not the aplication".

If I'm following along, I think the complaint is that now when you highlight a message and hit the 'Delete' button, the message moves to the trash, and the highlight goes to the next message, correct?  I noticed this happening recently, and I really like it.  If I have a bunch of things to delete that I've read, it's easy, 'pop, pop, pop'.  As this mirroring the behavior in Thunderbird, it's also the behavior in Outlook.  Trying to define Roundcube as a Web client or a fat client is not really fair anymore; this client *can do* much more than other Web clients.  So, why not take advantage of it?  

Now I"m sure it can be made an option that the user can toggle, hey, I don't like the 'Return receipt' option showing up, and will likely work on an patch to make that an option, but for now I think the functionality is something that a desktop user will be at home with.  If it seems strange and new to a Web mail user, well, then good, it's supposed to surprise them!

I can see that 'Personal settings' tab growing a bit...


> Also, the selection marker is moving backwards! :-( So I don't get the
> next message, but the previous one
> So here is my thought about it:
> - There has to be an option to how to treat selection after an action has
> been executed over the message. The option should, not only be
> configurable in which direction to move (forward or backward), but also in
> if it should select or not another message. You can leave the default
> behavior to be "move to the next message", and let user decide what is
> best for him/her.
> I have to say that without this option, I'm going to have a very hard time
> trying to impose RC on our network.
> P.D.: Is RC moving to become "Thunderbird inside Firefox"? :-)
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