Brett Patters - Roundcube Forum Admin
brett at roundcubeforum.net
Fri May 5 17:34:56 CEST 2006
Brett Patters - Roundcube Forum Admin wrote:
> Colin Alston wrote:
>> Charles McNulty wrote:
>>> Jon Daley wrote:
>>>> I believe there have been a half dozen offers for hosting
>>>> subversion (myself included). Thomas or Charles wrote back to me
>>>> and said thanks, but it wasn't needed, and that they expected to
>>>> switch to SF's svn at some point. And since I now mirror the cvs
>>>> tree in subversion for keeping my own local revisions merged, I
>>>> offered to publicize that, but that was also turned down.
>>> Well, wasn't me, so it must have been Thomas, but from my
>>> perspective I definitely prefer a hosting provider such as
>>> sourceforge as opposed to a volunteer no matter how dedicated or
>>> experienced they are. The advantages of sourceforge are that 1)
>>> They won't burn out from all the work associated with hosting 2)
>>> They won't decide to stop hosting over disagreement with the
>>> direction of the project or personality disagreements. 3) redundancy
>>> in terms of personel. In other words if the volunteer hosting the
>>> project is abducted by aliens, we'd be up the crick.
>>> Now obviously sf.net has some serious problems. I don't know how a
>>> hardware problem could possibly in a million years lead to a month
>>> of downtime. And I can't imagine how sf.net imagines that this is
>>> acceptable. I'd be open to moving to something else like sf.net
>>> (perhaps savannah.org) or switching to svn, but there are too many
>>> potential pitfalls to handing off hosting to a volunteer, IMO.
>> While that is totally understandable, and I do agree, you should
>> understand peoples frustrations since RoundCube is such a very
>> promising project.
>> The only solution, although not in RC's favor, is that it is branched
>> by someone who does have the capacity to provide reliable development
>> services to people who are submitting patches or want access to
>> bleeding edge code so as to make patches as well as have proper bug
>> SourceForge is great, but it leaves a lot to be desired and there are
>> also many other tools which allow people to be more productive than
>> the in-house SF systems.
>> If you're willing at all to hear peoples donations in terms of
>> hosting and repo, perhaps it would be at least worthwhile for people
>> to put their whole offer on the table.
> Well, one option that is a great alternative to SF is OSUOSL. It's
> the Oregan State University Open Source Lab. Since RC is OSS, why not
> host it at OSL for free? phpBB just recently made the switch there :)
> Now, they offer SVN (with anonymous access) and I can say that they're
> run from a University. So it's not just going to go away. Nor will
> any differences impact them in their decision to host. But, they do
> have requirements. Like they want to directly impact the OSU campus.
> While we can't do that right away, we could swing it to make it OSU's
> premier webmail system :) ;)
> So check them out. I think it's a very viable alternative. If
> nothing else, the SVN repo can be stored there and the site
> elsewhere. It's something to think about. It wouldn't be immediate,
> you'd have to apply for space and such, but I can't see them turning
> us down other than for the fact that we don't directly impact the OSU
> community. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try!! :)
> Brett Patterson
> Roundcube Forum Admin
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