Unimplemented features?

Brett Patters - Roundcube Forum Admin brett at roundcubeforum.net
Fri May 5 17:34:56 CEST 2006


Brett Patters - Roundcube Forum Admin wrote:
> Colin Alston wrote:
>> Charles McNulty wrote:
>>> Jon Daley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     I believe there have been a half dozen offers for hosting 
>>>> subversion (myself included).  Thomas or Charles wrote back to me 
>>>> and said thanks, but it wasn't needed, and that they expected to 
>>>> switch to SF's svn at some point.  And since I now mirror the cvs 
>>>> tree in subversion for keeping my own local revisions merged, I 
>>>> offered to publicize that, but that was also turned down.
>>>
>>> Well, wasn't me, so it must have been Thomas, but from my 
>>> perspective I definitely prefer a hosting provider such as 
>>> sourceforge as opposed to a volunteer no matter how dedicated or 
>>> experienced they are.  The advantages of sourceforge are that 1) 
>>> They won't burn out from all the work associated with hosting 2) 
>>> They won't decide to stop hosting over disagreement with the 
>>> direction of the project or personality disagreements. 3) redundancy 
>>> in terms of personel.  In other words if the volunteer hosting the 
>>> project is abducted by aliens, we'd be up the crick.
>>>
>>> Now obviously sf.net has some serious problems.  I don't know how a 
>>> hardware problem could possibly in a million years lead to a month 
>>> of downtime.  And I can't imagine how sf.net imagines that this is 
>>> acceptable.  I'd be open to moving to something else like sf.net 
>>> (perhaps savannah.org) or switching to svn, but there are too many 
>>> potential pitfalls to handing off hosting to a volunteer, IMO.
>>
>> While that is totally understandable, and I do agree, you should 
>> understand peoples frustrations since RoundCube is such a very 
>> promising project.
>>
>> The only solution, although not in RC's favor, is that it is branched 
>> by someone who does have the capacity to provide reliable development 
>> services to people who are submitting patches or want access to 
>> bleeding edge code so as to make patches as well as have proper bug 
>> tracking.
>>
>> SourceForge is great, but it leaves a lot to be desired and there are 
>> also many other tools which allow people to be more productive than 
>> the in-house SF systems.
>>
>> If you're willing at all to hear peoples donations in terms of 
>> hosting and repo, perhaps it would be at least worthwhile for people 
>> to put their whole offer on the table.
>>
> Well, one option that is a great alternative to SF is OSUOSL.  It's 
> the Oregan State University Open Source Lab.  Since RC is OSS, why not 
> host it at OSL for free?  phpBB just recently made the switch there :)
>
> Now, they offer SVN (with anonymous access) and I can say that they're 
> run from a University.  So it's not just going to go away.  Nor will 
> any differences impact them in their decision to host.  But, they do 
> have requirements.  Like they want to directly impact the OSU campus.  
> While we can't do that right away, we could swing it to make it OSU's 
> premier webmail system :) ;)
>
> So check them out.  I think it's a very viable alternative.  If 
> nothing else, the SVN repo can be stored there and the site 
> elsewhere.  It's something to think about.  It wouldn't be immediate, 
> you'd have to apply for space and such, but I can't see them turning 
> us down other than for the fact that we don't directly impact the OSU 
> community.  But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try!! :)
>
> -- 
> Brett Patterson
> Roundcube Forum Admin
> www.roundcubeforum.net
>
>
Forgot the website address... oops!!
www.osuosl.org
That's the main site.  But if you look around you can see its services 
and such.

~Brett




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