[RCD] [Project: 137] Dev Digest, Vol 36, Issue 7

Ross Pointon ross.pointon at ask4.com
Fri Jun 25 11:32:23 CEST 2010


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>    1. Re:  New compose screen? (liu liu)
>    2. Re:  New compose screen? (Patrick Nagel)
>    3. Re:  New compose screen? (Vladislav Bogdanov)
>    4.  0.4 non-beta? (Rimas Kudelis)
>    5.  PHP version survey (till)
>    6.  Message List and Preview Pane (vertical) (S c o t t K r a m e r)
>    7. Re:  Message List and Preview Pane (vertical) (Cor Bosman)
>    8. Re:  Message List and Preview Pane (vertical)
>       (S c o t t K r a m e r)
>    9. Re:  New compose screen? (Brandon Davidson)
>   10. Re:  New compose screen? (Doug Mandell)
>   11. Re:  PHP version survey (Philip Iezzi)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:46:10 +0800
> From: liu liu <nckuhuahua at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [RCD] New compose screen?
> To: dev at lists.roundcube.net
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> That's great ! :-)
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> 2010/6/24 A.L.E.C <alec at alec.pl>:
>> I've prepared a screen for a new compose window and I've got various
>> opinions abut this. What's your opinion? Question is for svn-trunk
users,
>> because the idea was to make compose look more unified with the rest of
>> the
>> current UI.
>>
>> --
>> Aleksander 'A.L.E.C' Machniak http://alec.pl gg:2275252
>> LAN Management System Developer http://lms.org.pl
>> Roundcube Webmail Developer http://roundcube.net
>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 22:40:46 +0800
> From: Patrick Nagel <mail at patrick-nagel.net>
> Subject: Re: [RCD] New compose screen?
> To: dev at lists.roundcube.net
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> Hi,
> 
> On 2010-06-24 12:14 UTC A.L.E.C wrote:
>> I've prepared a screen for a new compose window and I've got various
>> opinions abut this. What's your opinion? Question is for svn-trunk
>> users, because the idea was to make compose look more unified with the
>> rest of the current UI.
> 
> Well done! The only thing that looks a bit awkward to me, is the huge 
> "Attachments" place. But I don't have an idea how to change it.
> 
> Patrick.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 17:58:18 +0300
> From: Vladislav Bogdanov <bubble at hoster-ok.com>
> Subject: Re: [RCD] New compose screen?
> To: "A.L.E.C" <alec at alec.pl>
> Cc: RoundCube Dev <dev at lists.roundcube.net>
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> Nice.
> I'd only make "Send now" button centered relative to compose area and
> some-how separated it from the "Cancel" button.
> Attachment area can be smaller, but I think we should preserve space for
> GPG/SMIME staff so it can push attachment area up when will be ready.
> 
> Best,
> bubble
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:12:45 +0300
> From: Rimas Kudelis <rq at akl.lt>
> Subject: [RCD] 0.4 non-beta?
> To: RoundCube Dev <dev at lists.roundcube.net>
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>  Hello,
> 
> it's been two months since 0.4-beta was released. What are the plans
> regarding non-beta releases?
> 
> thanks,
> Rimas
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:08:04 +0200
> From: till <klimpong at gmail.com>
> Subject: [RCD] PHP version survey
> To: RoundCube Dev <dev at lists.roundcube.net>
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> Could everyone reply with which PHP version they currently use in
> production? Off-list is ok too.
> 
> Thanks,
> Till
> 
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 14:38:57 -0400
> From: S c o t t  K r a m e r <scott_list at clevelanddata.com>
> Subject: [RCD] Message List and Preview Pane (vertical)
> To: RoundCube Dev <dev at lists.roundcube.net>
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> 
> I like the new design-- and was thinking, is it time to do a vertical
> layout? 
> 
> It seems like now would be a good time to do it. Shouldn't
> this be a core feature? So many people have wide screens now. 
> What do
> you guys think! 
> Thanks, 
> Scott
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:42:01 +0200
> From: Cor Bosman <cor at xs4all.nl>
> Subject: Re: [RCD] Message List and Preview Pane (vertical)
> To: RoundCube Dev <dev at lists.roundcube.net>
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> I suppose anyone could do this by making a vertical layout skin.  Thats
> what skinning is for right?
> 
> Cor
> 
> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 14:44:43 -0400
> From: S c o t t  K r a m e r <scott_list at clevelanddata.com>
> Subject: Re: [RCD] Message List and Preview Pane (vertical)
> To: Cor Bosman <cor at xs4all.nl>
> Cc: RoundCube Dev <dev at lists.roundcube.net>
> Message-ID: <d04781991efc0d206dc761e1ac36e600 at clevelanddata.com>
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> yes, but should be built in now? -- I even think there are some skins
> out there already, but they are never that good & seem to break
> 
> On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:42:01 +0200, Cor Bosman <cor at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> I suppose anyone could do this by making a vertical layout skin. 
>> Thats what skinning is for right?
>> 
>> Cor
>> 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:40:08 -0700
> From: Brandon Davidson <brandond at uoregon.edu>
> Subject: Re: [RCD] New compose screen?
> To: "A.L.E.C" <alec at alec.pl>, RoundCube Dev <dev at lists.roundcube.net>
> Message-ID: <C8492CD8.1F8EC%brandond at uoregon.edu>
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> On 6/24/10 5:14 AM, "A.L.E.C" <alec at alec.pl> wrote:
>> I've prepared a screen for a new compose window and I've got various
>> opinions abut this. What's your opinion? Question is for svn-trunk
>> users, because the idea was to make compose look more unified with the
>> rest of the current UI.
> 
> I'm not sure I like it - one of my favorite things about Roundcube is
that
> it looks and feels like a traditional 'thick' mail client in a lot of
ways
> that make people feel very comfortable with it. The new compose view is
> pretty drastically different, and I'm afraid it would scare people away,
> back to our old webmail system that I'm trying to lure them off of.
People
> fear change :(
> 
> Maybe if there was an option to pick the layout? That would probably be
> harder to support, but I think I'd find myself maintaining a patch to
> retain
> the old layout if I didn't have an option to switch to it.
> 
> -Brad
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 22:44:24 -0700
> From: Doug Mandell <dmandell at gristle.org>
> Subject: Re: [RCD] New compose screen?
> To: Brandon Davidson <brandond at uoregon.edu>
> Cc: RoundCube Dev <dev at lists.roundcube.net>
> Message-ID: <e5d81c9be0e1813e944bac646bf47409 at gristle.org>
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> On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:40:08 -0700, Brandon Davidson
<brandond at uoregon.edu>
> wrote:
>> 
>> On 6/24/10 5:14 AM, "A.L.E.C" <alec at alec.pl> wrote:
>>> I've prepared a screen for a new compose window and I've got various
>>> opinions abut this. What's your opinion? Question is for svn-trunk
>>> users, because the idea was to make compose look more unified with the
>>> rest of the current UI.
>> 
>> I'm not sure I like it - one of my favorite things about Roundcube is
> that
>> it looks and feels like a traditional 'thick' mail client in a lot of
> ways
>> that make people feel very comfortable with it. The new compose view is
>> pretty drastically different, and I'm afraid it would scare people
away,
>> back to our old webmail system that I'm trying to lure them off of.
> People
>> fear change :(
>> 
>> Maybe if there was an option to pick the layout? That would probably be
>> harder to support, but I think I'd find myself maintaining a patch to
>> retain
>> the old layout if I didn't have an option to switch to it.
> 
> I just wanted to say I agree with Brandon.  One of the major benefits of
> Roundcube is that its interface is familiar and easy for new users to
> understand.  The new layout is pretty foreign, I wouldn't mind it as an
> option, but the present compose screen seems like a better default to
me.  
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:50:16 +0200
> From: Philip Iezzi <lists at iezzi.ch>
> Subject: Re: [RCD] PHP version survey
> To: till <klimpong at gmail.com>
> Cc: RoundCube Dev <dev at lists.roundcube.net>
> Message-ID: <334F322B-A664-484A-A12F-50604844C258 at iezzi.ch>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Hi Till
> 
> We're always using the most recent stable version of PHP.
> 
> At Datenpark (www.datenpark.ch, 4000 mailaccounts, 400 unique
> RC-users/day, RC 0.3.1):
>  PHP 5.2.13, soon switching to 5.3.x
> At Onlime Webhosting (www.onlime.ch, 400 mailaccounts, 20 unique
> RC-users/day, RC 0.3.1 + 0.4-beta testing):
>  PHP 5.3.2
> 
> Both PHP versions are self-compiled under Debian Lenny, applied
> Suhosin-patch, enabled Suhosin-module. RC's running fine on both.
> 
> By the way, at Datenpark (PHP 5.2.13) we are still getting feedback of
> customers loosing their session, getting occasionally kicked out of RC.
> We were never able to reproduce it. Could "double_auth" have been the
> problem? We now switched from double_auth to ip_check. ip_check though
is
> suboptimal as in Switzerland there are some mobile carriers (e.g.
Swisscom)
> that switch IPs every couple of seconds (Swisscom support could never
tell
> me why).
> 
> Thanks,
> Philip
> 
> 
> Am 24.06.2010 um 19:08 schrieb till:
> 
>> Could everyone reply with which PHP version they currently use in
>> production? Off-list is ok too.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Till
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