[RCD] New look of compose and message screens

Richard Pijnenburg richard at softwaredev.nl
Sun Sep 9 20:58:42 CEST 2012

On 2012-09-09 20:30, Thomas Bruederli wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:49 PM, A.L.E.C <alec at alec.pl> wrote:
>> On 09/06/2012 12:26 PM, Torsten Grote wrote:
>>>> And where can I now add CC, BCC and stuff?
>>> Good question! I wouldn't like to see it hidden in some option 
>>> expander.
>> What a difference, link or expander. I see you need more screenshots 
>> ;),
>> see http://alec.pl/larry. Keep in mind that these are only ideas, 
>> the
>> look will be improved slightly + icons for toolbar.
> I really don't see an improvement in the new
> expand-all-options-and-headers-at-once solution you're proposing for
> the compose screen.
> There are several levels of "expansion" in the current compose screen
> (so as they where in the old skin). It's common that one wants to add
> a CC or BCC field when composing a new message. This level of
> extensibility is perfectly covered with the (+) Add ... links we now
> have. More advanced options are hidden in the area between headers 
> and
> the body. I use them way less than adding a CC. Therefore it makes
> sense to me, to have them in a different location and hidden by a
> separate Options button. Since they mostly affect message headers, 
> the
> location of this options palette is IMO just right.
> You now propose to expand everything on one click and smash a 
> shitload
> of options into a dummy user's face who just wants to add a CC line.
> That's a regression and not an optimization to me.
> As a side note, the two-step header expansion in message (pre)view
> isn't perfect either. I was confused by the up/down arrows appearing
> when I expanded the headers in message preview. Showing all headers 
> is
> again a very power-user feature and should not use the same element 
> as
> to just show the regular headers. And there's no way to hide them
> anymore. Furthermore, I don't exactly understand why in full message
> view mode the headers are collapsed by default. There we have enough
> space and all basic headers should be show right away. The reason to
> hide them in preview mode was because they're redundant to what is
> displayed in the message list above and vertical space is limited.
> Overall, I'm not very happy with the changes you're suggesting or
> which you already committed to git master. But I'd very much like 
> some
> more persons to speak up on this. Otherwise we'll end up in a Thomas
> vs. Alec fight here.
> Best,
> Thomas

I have to agree with Thomas on this one.
The current design is way clearer then the idea's proposed by Alec.
It needs to be useful and clear for the simplest of users.

What i do would like to see is the buttons ( send, save and cancel ) 
also on the bottom, but that's my opinion ;-)


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