[RCU] Misconfigured Mailing List DNS

Drew Happli ahappli at havencomm.com
Mon Aug 16 15:23:44 CEST 2021

A few etiquette things here.  If you have a problem with the way a 
mailing list is run, you can always e-mail <mailinglist>-owners@<fqdn>,  
this will take your concerns to the people that can actually do 
something about it.  It is up to them to answer or ignore you as they 
want.    Spamming the mailing list with unhinged complaints about how it 
is run is bad manners.

Second, RoundCube is a mail client, and none of your complaints have 
ANYTHING to do with the client and its operation.  Again, bad manners.

Third, I don't know that the Roundcube mailing list is run by a system 
administrator/email administrator.  Nor do I care, the mailing list is 
for people using and managing RoundCube to access e-mail, it isn't about 
setting up your mailing list or e-mail and best practices.


On 08/15/2021 9:32 pm, Nick Edwards wrote:

> Wondered why gmail was putting so many of today's messages in spam 
> folder, NOW I SEE WHY
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 10:47 AM <roundcube at ptld.com> wrote:
>>> i am right about HELO FCrDNS because i am in the business for 20 
>>> years
>>> and know what i am doing - you don't
>> So what if you been doing it 20 years? That is not proof of anything.
>> FYI, 20 years and you still have DNS errors that don't properly 
>> resolve?
>> Tsk tsk. See, 20 years isn't a winning argument.
>>> "The sender-SMTP MUST ensure that the <domain> parameter in a HELO
>>> command is a valid principal host domain name for the client host"
>> You are misunderstanding that sentence. If it ONLY said "The 
>> sender-SMTP
>> MUST ensure that the <domain> parameter in a HELO command is a valid
>> domain name." Then you could say you are correct. But that is NOT what
>> it says. It does not say it ONLY needs to be a valid domain name. You
>> keep skipping over the rest of the words. It says it must be a "valid
>> PRINCIPAL HOST domain name FOR THE CLIENT HOST." Why do you keep
>> avoiding the meaning of the *ENTIRE* sentence?
>> Even just logically, why even have a HELO name if it doesn't serve a
>> purpose? If its not intended to be FCrDNS then why does it matter if 
>> its
>> even a "valid" domain name at all? I mean if you aren't going to try 
>> to
>> resolve it why can't it just be "3 & @ j()" for the host name? Maybe,
>> just maybe if your can stop being so obtuse and open your mind... it
>> needs to be a valid domain name ... so it can be resolved. Because as
>> the RFC's say, and i keep repeating, and you keep avoiding "valid ...
>> for the client host". I will speak slower for you. It does not say 
>> "a valid domain name".
>> FYI, every time you resort to name calling and side tracking trying to
>> "find" something else to insult me about like im using two name 
>> servers
>> on the same /24 just goes to show you are loosing the argument and are
>> desperate for a hail marry distraction.
>> If im wrong, show me why what im saying is wrong on the merits of what
>> we talking about. Explain the full meaning of ALL of the words of that
>> sentence. Explain what they mean by "principal host" if what they mean
>> is just any valid domain name. Explain what "for the client host" 
>> means
>> if they are not intending for the domain name to map to the client 
>> host.
>> Use your big boy words and not childish name calling.
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