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[Fwd: [RCD] Attachment locking interface bug-patch (#1484496) I just submitted a bug to trac about downloading attachments that aren't of a correct mime type to spawn the window, ie the direct download, that causes the ui to lock up. (#1484496) Here is my patch to the solution from the latest svn checkout. It retains the original behavior of the redirect() function but adds in the lock that is sent to goto_url(). New to patches, so forgive if I did this improperly :) Patrick]
by Rich at Whidbey Telecom 10 Aug '07

10 Aug '07

Here's the patch that was submitted on July 31st and added to 667. :) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [RCD] Attachment locking interface bug-patch (#1484496) I just submitted a bug to trac about downloading attachments that aren't of a correct mime type to spawn the window, ie the direct download, that causes the ui to lock up. (#1484496) Here is my patch to the solution from the latest svn checkout. It retains the original behavior of the redirect() function but adds in the lock that is sent to goto_url(). New to patches, so forgive if I did this improperly :) Patrick Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:30:12 -0600 From: Patrick Milvich <patrick(a)milvich.com> To: dev(a)lists.roundcube.net I just submitted a bug to trac about downloading attachments that aren't of a correct mime type to spawn the window, ie the direct download, that causes the ui to lock up. (#1484496) Here is my patch to the solution from the latest svn checkout. It retains the original behavior of the redirect() function but adds in the lock that is sent to goto_url(). New to patches, so please forgive if I did this improperly. Patrick Index: program/js/app.js =================================================================== --- program/js/app.js (revision 657) +++ program/js/app.js (working copy) @@ -694,7 +694,7 @@ } } - this.goto_url('get', qstring+'&_download=1'); + this.goto_url('get', qstring+'&_download=1', false); break; case 'select-all': @@ -3187,9 +3187,10 @@ /********* remote request methods *********/ /********************************************************/ - this.redirect = function(url) + this.redirect = function(url, lock) { - this.set_busy(true); + if (lock || lock == null) + this.set_busy(true); if (this.env.framed && window.parent) parent.location.href = url; else @@ -3198,11 +3199,8 @@ this.goto_url = function(action, query, lock) { - if (lock) - this.set_busy(true); - var querystring = query ? '&'+query : ''; - this.redirect(this.env.comm_path+'&_action='+action+querystring); + this.redirect(this.env.comm_path+'&_action='+action+querystring, lock); }; _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/ -- Rich Sandberg richs(a)whidbey.net Whidbey Telecom Network Operations _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Re: [RCD] Re: Problem when cancelling download of attachment RC1
by Rich at Whidbey Telecom 10 Aug '07

10 Aug '07

It looks like a patch was submitted for this by someone on July 31st. I'll see if I can apply it when I do some additional bug fixes today. Rich Jeff McClure wrote: > I can confirm as well. It doesn't always happen, but it also doesn't > require canceling the download to break it. This is with Firefox 2.0.0.6 on > Windows XP Pro SP2. RoundCube version is 0.1-rc1 running on Apache 2.2.3 > and PHP 4.4.4-8+etch4 under Debian stable. > > A possible clue: sometimes when I click on a download, a second tab > (window) that is obviously being generated by RoundCube pops up. When that > happens, I don't see the UI freeze. However, sometimes when I download, I > don't get that second window. In those cases it's more likely that the UI > will freeze up. > > --Jeff > > On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:44:30 -0700, Rich at Whidbey Telecom > <richs(a)whidbey.net> wrote: >> I can confirm this too. Sent myself a 9 MB zip, began the download of >> the attachment, and interface elements were unresponsive for several >> minutes. >> >> Feels like another set_busy not resetting. >> >> Rich >> >> Joan wrote: >>> After some more testing, I installed the last revision (666) to see if >>> the problem was still there. And yes, it's there ... >>> Whenever I download multiple attachments, roundcube stops responding >>> for a while after the first file is downloaded. >>> Same thing hapens when I cancell the download. >>> So It's a usual error, every time I receive a mail with attachments, >>> is the team aware of it? At this time this is the most annoying of the >>> bugs of roundcube (personal opinion, of course). >>> Cheers >>> >>> >>> 2007/8/8, Joan <aseques(a)gmail.com>: >>>> I already posted that to the forums, but didn't get any answer >>>> Whenever I cancel the download of an attachment (i.e. any .zip about >>>> 4Mb or larger), roundcube remains unresponsive for a while. >>>> It seems that is downloading it in background and until it finishes >>>> you have to wait, so for the 4Mb file I was testing i have to wait for >>>> about 30 seconds before I can continue working. >>>> Is it solved in the SVN? >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/ >> -- >> >> Rich Sandberg >> richs(a)whidbey.net >> Whidbey Telecom Network Operations >> _______________________________________________ >> List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/ -- Rich Sandberg richs(a)whidbey.net Whidbey Telecom Network Operations _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Re: New translation - ukrainian
by Thomas Bruederli 10 Aug '07

10 Aug '07

Serhij S. Stasyuk wrote: > Hello all! > > Thanks a lot for the great product. > > Ukrainian translation attached. Thanks. I'll add it to the SVN trunk. > > One question - are there any plans to integrate some server-side > filtering (interface to procmail rules for example)? This is something very server specific and will not become part of RoundCube. You'll have to wait until we have a plugin-API... ~Thomas _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Re: Localization for Simplified Chinese (zh_CN)
by Thomas Bruederli 10 Aug '07

10 Aug '07

Thanks! Will commit it to the SVN trunk. ~Thomas 薛忠胜 wrote: > Hi RoundCube crew: > > Attached please find the localization files for Simplified Chinese (zh_CN). > > If have any problem, don't hesitate contact me. > > Hunte > > > _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Problem when cancelling download of attachment RC1
by Joan 09 Aug '07

09 Aug '07

I already posted that to the forums, but didn't get any answer Whenever I cancel the download of an attachment (i.e. any .zip about 4Mb or larger), roundcube remains unresponsive for a while. It seems that is downloading it in background and until it finishes you have to wait, so for the 4Mb file I was testing i have to wait for about 30 seconds before I can continue working. Is it solved in the SVN? _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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roadmap dates? vNext?
by Mark D. Anderson 09 Aug '07

09 Aug '07

I know this is the kind of question people hate, but is there some sort of rough notion (say, to 6 month precision) of when the major releases might come out? And is "vNext" the same as 0.2 or 0.3? Looking at http://trac.roundcube.net/trac.cgi/roadmap the plugin API won't be til version 0.3. I ask because I'm contemplating using roundcube as the basis of a corporate messaging workflow app and would love it if my extensions could be implemented as plugins (for example, a plugin to generate and run forms to create documents to be emailed). I've looked at Zimbra and Joyent, and unfortunately they don't really have plugin support either; extensions require modification of numerous core files. -mda _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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New repository for nightly builds
by Thomas Bruederli 09 Aug '07

09 Aug '07

Hi everybody We kind of automated the publishing process of nightly builds and therefore removed them form the SourceForge downloads page. You can now find gzipped archives of SVN snapshots at http://nightly.roundcube.net Cheers! Thomas _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Re: [RCD] [Patch] Problem emptying trash in non-english languages
by Joan 07 Aug '07

07 Aug '07

Yup, your're right, patch newie :P, that should be ok /skins/default/mail.css @@ -338,7 +338,7 @@ { position: absolute; left: 20px; - width: 160px; + width: 170px; bottom: 20px; height: 16px; overflow: hidden; Cheers PS: Raoul, sorry for the bunch of duplicate mails, forgot to change the reply 2007/8/7, Raoul Bhatia [IPAX] <r.bhatia(a)ipax.at>: > you should change the order of the argumens for diff as the patch below > would remove "width: 170px;" and add "width: 160px;". > > :) > > kind regards, > raoul bhatia > > Joan wrote: > > We are using Roundcube both in Catalan or spanish, due to larger > > words, "Compact empty" becomes "Compacta buida" and the second word > > cannot be readen using the default font sizes. > > Changing width to 170px in /skins/default/mail.css solves the problem > > > > > > @@ -338,7 +338,7 @@ > > { > > position: absolute; > > left: 20px; > > - width: 170px; > > + width: 160px; > > bottom: 20px; > > height: 16px; > > overflow: hidden; > > > > Cheers. > > _______________________________________________ > > List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/ > > > -- > ____________________________________________________________________ > DI (FH) Raoul Bhatia M.Sc. E-Mail. r.bhatia(a)ipax.at > IPAX Web. http://www.ipax.at > Chief Technician, Support IRC. #ipax (quakenet) > ____________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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[Patch] Problem emptying trash in non-english languages
by Joan 07 Aug '07

07 Aug '07

We are using Roundcube both in Catalan or spanish, due to larger words, "Compact empty" becomes "Compacta buida" and the second word cannot be readen using the default font sizes. Changing width to 170px in /skins/default/mail.css solves the problem @@ -338,7 +338,7 @@ { position: absolute; left: 20px; - width: 170px; + width: 160px; bottom: 20px; height: 16px; overflow: hidden; Cheers. _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Javascript error when send message without body.
by Chen Lei 07 Aug '07

07 Aug '07

file: roundcubemail-0.1-rc1.1.tar /roundcubemail-0.1-rc1/program/js/app.js line 1683: if ((input_message.value=='')&&(tinyMCE.getContent()=='')) I don't have tinymce installed, the variable tinyMCE cause a javascript error when send message without body. Should it be if ((input_message.value=='')&&((!tinyMCE) true : tinyMCE.getContent()=='')) _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Trac and svn down again?
by Joan 06 Aug '07

06 Aug '07

Since this morning seems that both trac and svn are down. Could you post any recent svn snapshot in the forums so I can download that copy? Thanks for all _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Re: Pingpong?
by David Abrahams 02 Aug '07

02 Aug '07

on Sat Jul 21 2007, till <klimpong-AT-gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Not to rush you, but is anyone looking at these results? I went to >> >> considerable trouble to produce them, so a simple acknowledgement >> >> would make me feel better about having done it :) >> > >> > Pong! >> > >> > I can't provide you with an ETA on when I will look. Probably on the >> > weekend. Maybe others will look earlier - or later. >> >> Just checking in again, thanks... > > Sorry, still have no ETA. I can try again next week but I am somewhat > on vacation. Sorry to pester, but how about now? -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com The Astoria Seminar ==> http://www.astoriaseminar.com _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Re: [RCD] Re: Pingpong?
by Jason Fesler 02 Aug '07

02 Aug '07

> Thanks, I've read about both these facilities, and in fact I have them > installed. However, none of the documentation I've found makes what > they really do understandable, and especially not how to recover if > there's a problem during upgrading... which I've had in the past. I only *minimally* use ports, specifically because of problems upgrading. I only use ports for minor things. That said, I don' fear upgrading "/usr/ports", I just do any actual port upgrades cautiously. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html gives many ways to update your /usr/ports . _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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de_DE
by till 02 Aug '07

02 Aug '07

+ $labels['resumeediting'] = 'Bearbeitung fortsetzen'; - $labels['resumeediting'] = 'Bearbeitung fortzetzen'; If anyone could apply that to trunk - muchas gracias. File in question: labels.inc See: http://trac.roundcube.net/trac.cgi/browser/trunk/roundcubemail/program/loca… Till _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Attachment locking interface bug-patch (#1484496) I just submitted a bug to trac about downloading attachments that aren't of a correct mime type to spawn the window, ie the direct download, that causes the ui to lock up. (#1484496) Here is my patch to the solution from the latest svn checkout. It retains the original behavior of the redirect() function but adds in the lock that is sent to goto_url(). New to patches, so forgive if I did this improperly :) Patrick
by Patrick Milvich 31 Jul '07

31 Jul '07

I just submitted a bug to trac about downloading attachments that aren't of a correct mime type to spawn the window, ie the direct download, that causes the ui to lock up. (#1484496) Here is my patch to the solution from the latest svn checkout. It retains the original behavior of the redirect() function but adds in the lock that is sent to goto_url(). New to patches, so please forgive if I did this improperly. Patrick Index: program/js/app.js =================================================================== --- program/js/app.js (revision 657) +++ program/js/app.js (working copy) @@ -694,7 +694,7 @@ } } - this.goto_url('get', qstring+'&_download=1'); + this.goto_url('get', qstring+'&_download=1', false); break; case 'select-all': @@ -3187,9 +3187,10 @@ /********* remote request methods *********/ /********************************************************/ - this.redirect = function(url) + this.redirect = function(url, lock) { - this.set_busy(true); + if (lock || lock == null) + this.set_busy(true); if (this.env.framed && window.parent) parent.location.href = url; else @@ -3198,11 +3199,8 @@ this.goto_url = function(action, query, lock) { - if (lock) - this.set_busy(true); - var querystring = query ? '&'+query : ''; - this.redirect(this.env.comm_path+'&_action='+action+querystring); + this.redirect(this.env.comm_path+'&_action='+action+querystring, lock); }; _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Folder list problem
by Hegedüs Ervin 31 Jul '07

31 Jul '07

Hello dev list, here is a roundcube-0.1-beta2, in front of Courier-imap server. Effect: when user sends a mail, what contains a subject like: 04.10. or 2007.06.07. (these are concrete examples), so the any kind of date-like-pattern accommodate the string, user can't list the folder. If user point the browser to an email in Inbox, and then goes to Sent items, then folder opens. Could somebody help me, what may be the problem. (If I remove the mail, what contains the subject above, Sent items folder opens, when user click to its link). Thanks: a. _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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need help with $CONFIG
by roundcube＠kamm.hu 26 Jul '07

26 Jul '07

Hello, I'm new to RoundCube, just tried it today, liked it very much, so I decided to modify the code a little to suit my needs, but I'm not a php expert, that's why I need some help. I wanted to disable the e-mail and reply-to modifying options in the identities menu. In the main.inc.php config file I added a new entry: rcmail_config['can_change_fromaddr'] = TRUE; but it seems like that $CONFIG['can_change_fromaddr'] is empty when I try to use it in the edit_identity.inc file. What am I doing wrong? Patch attached. thanks, Kamm --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- The following attachments have been detached and are available for viewing. http://detached.gigo.com/mm/wc/9GX2nH6F/roundcube_fromaddr.patch Only click these links if you trust the sender, as well as this message. --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Re: why don't you made regular releases?
by mailist＠sokol.dynalias.net 26 Jul '07

26 Jul '07

Hi Thomas, I'm sorry to hear your reasons for handing your leadership over to someone else. Roundcube is so far a great app and I use it often. Whether I had sufficient webprogrammer skills I would help to develop roundcube. But for now it's for me an insuperable challenge that would waste a lot of time even before I can commit my first lines of code. And I try to commit a patch some day:-) I hope that roundcube will be develop any longer! Greetz On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:06:50 +0200, "Thomas Bruederli" <roundcube(a)gmail.com> wrote: > There's one simple answer to this question: It just because nobody > really works on the code. When did you see the last commit that closed > a bug? > > Second: releasing means testing, cleaning up, packaging, distributing, > writing an announcement, etc. I don't want to do all that stuff every > time I change two lines of code. But this is not the point. The main > reason why we're still stuck with 0.1-rc1 is that there are no active > developers. Unfortunately I hardly have time to work on the project > and the few minutes that are left, I mostly spend with writing answers > to (stupid) requests. > > I don't say it's all the other's fault. I seriously underestimated the > meaning of starting an open source project. It's far more work than > just writing some lines of code and copy them on a server. > > Sorry for the bad "service" and the disappointing growth of the > project but I had to shift my priorities away from RoundCube and this > situation will remain for the next two years :-( > > In other words: everybody is welcome to take over the project lead and > release more often. > > ~Thomas > > > 2007/7/22, Farkas Levente <lfarkas(a)bppiac.hu>: >> hi, >> why don't roundcube has regular release like 0.1, 0.2 etc? everybody >> know it's a beta software and will care according to that. but even in >> that case it's 0.1rc1 since almost a half a year now! wouldn't it be >> better to make more regular release, users can test it and comment on >> it. until it's reach the 1.0 version everybody know it's beta software >> and use only care. but even if the development moving it seems to >> standing. as one of the lesson to learn from opensource project "release >> early". >> just my 2c. >> >> -- >> Levente "Si vis pacem para bellum!" >> >> >> _______________________________________________ RoundCube Dev mailing list Dev(a)lists.roundcube.net http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev

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Re: About RoundCube 0.1-rc1 pure GPL
by till 26 Jul '07

26 Jul '07

On 7/24/07, Romain Beauxis <toots(a)rastageeks.org> wrote: > Le Tuesday 24 July 2007 10:49:21 Thomas Bruederli, vous avez écrit: > > des.inc is not included in the pure GPL package. It uses mcrypt as > > suggested in the ticket you mentioned. Please, check it! > > Hi Thomas ! > > Nice to see you're considering this issue ! > > New package just uploaded to debian ! Thanks, Roman! :) Till _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Folder management
by Robin Elfrink 26 Jul '07

26 Jul '07

Just for your information: I'm working on a patch to select a parent folder when creating a new one, plus drag/dropping folders from one to another parent. It's not very close to being finished, but this is what I needed the changes in revision 651 for. Robin _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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trac is down
by Robin Elfrink 26 Jul '07

26 Jul '07

Hi, Can anybody kick trac? It's down :( Robin _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Update re: round cube lists.
by Jason Fesler 24 Jul '07

24 Jul '07

Based on feedback, I am enabling subject tagging. Subjects will be prefixed by [RCD] or [RCU]. This is a fairly religious issue for some folks; but the those that need/want it tagged _far_ outweighed any other response I got. I'm keeping the tag short, however, to try and minimize the effects for those that don't like subject tagging. I wish this were a per user setting, but .. it isn't. List signatures are still enabled but shorter. I find them neccesary to help keep list management easier. This also helps reduce the case of people getting tired of a list and just marking it as spam (Which can have effects further than they intended). Hopefully with a technical audience such as we have here, that won't happen, but.. Enforcement that posters be subscribed is now enabled. Most of the other antispam things I do at gigo.com, are disabled for the lists. If SpamAssassin still thinks "spam" the message might get deferred for moderator review. Lastly, some folks are doing sender verification. Because some folks still have DNS cached pointing to Bob's, and his would not verify the sender address I'm using, some folks are deferring (good) or rejecting (not so good) the mail. I'll contact those people in a day or so, recommending they clear their sender validation cache and/or check their sender verification cache settings. Unless anything else comes up, I'll move back to more of a lurker role. If anything comes up, feel free to contact me, email or jabber. -- Jason Fesler, email/jabber <jfesler(a)gigo.com> resume: http://jfesler.com "Give a man fire, and he'll be warm for a day; set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Welcome! (resent)
by Jason Fesler 24 Jul '07

24 Jul '07

bob(a)db.org said: >the time has come to move the RoundCube mailing lists to their new home. Folks, I've made the changes needed to move the lists to the new home. There should be no interruption; Bob is running the list in parallel until DNS fully moves as far as the public DNS caches are concerned. A quick intro about me: I'm Jason Fesler, nobody particularly special. I've worked with mail and usenet for a very long time, including writing a gateway between uucp/smtp/nntp to/from FidoNet (yes, I have some gray hairs), and I've had a number of scars fighting spam to keep mail a relevant and viable medium for my users. I've been working in this medium since 1993. I'm reachable as jfesler(a)gigo.com (email, jabber). I'm also reachable as postmaster(a)lists.roundcube.net (not spam filtered). Changes for the lists.. For spam reasons, only people who are subscribed, can post. Sorry! This makes a *huge* difference on mailing list hosting, particularly for the moderators and list operator (me). You are more than welcome to subscribe more than once - and, if desired, set your options to "no mail" mode. Speaking of options, http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/users http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/announce Scroll to the bottom field, enter your email address, hit the "Unsubscribe or edit options" button. Your password, if you had one previously, is different now. The options page can mail you your new password. I have not yet earned your trust, so it would have been inappriate for Bob to send me whatever passwords you had. You are welcome to change your password (again, above urls). In case you forget the url - look at the bottom of any post. You'll find the url for that specific list. Other changes: Posting attachments - The attachments will be "detached" and replaced by a url; the attachments will be web accessible. Sending attachments can get expensive. This way, only those interested in seeing the picture will burn up bandwidth fetching it. Likewise, those NOT interested, don't have to download it. An example is in this post. Archives - http://lists.roundcube.net has links. The urls for old links will have changed - there was no way to reliably keep them identical. Anyone who clicks a link to the old urls will be taken to the top level page. The archives now have a search feature. It isn't fancy, but it does work (just simple ht://dig). Subject: [Round Cube..] tagging - this is unfortunately not settable per subscriber, only per list. I am interested in your feedback - mail me (jfesler(a)gigo.com) privately with your opinion. After enough feedback comes in I may change the list to include a tag. (Initial feedback was, that gmail doesn't allow filtering on headers, only subject). -- Jason Fesler, email/jabber <jfesler(a)gigo.com> resume: http://jfesler.com "Give a man fire, and he'll be warm for a day; set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- The following attachments have been detached and are available for viewing. http://detached.gigo.com/mm/GC/ZkQZKxrz/banner.gif Only click these links if you trust the sender, as well as this message. --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- _______________________________________________ RoundCube Dev mailing list Dev(a)lists.roundcube.net http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev

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[RoundCube Subject?] or not to Subject, that is the question.
by Jason Fesler 24 Jul '07

24 Jul '07

Bob's list software allowed users to have [RoundCube ..] prepended to the subject. So does mine, but Bob's is better in so far that this is a per-user setting. The software I am using, is .. global to all members on a given list. Given that: Please reply to me privately with which list(s) you're on and your opinion on whether to prepend the subject with [RoundCube ..] or not. Initial setting is off per common consensus of the moderators - but really, this is your list. I'll evaluate the replies I get, and, if appropriate, make the neccesary changes. Before you reply: Consider what your mail client can do for you. If you look at the headers in this message, you'll see something similiar to 'List-Id: RoundCube Users <users.lists.roundcube.net>' which could be one way to organize your mail. -jason new list operator for RC lists -- Jason Fesler, email/jabber <jfesler(a)gigo.com> resume: http://jfesler.com "Give a man fire, and he'll be warm for a day; set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." _______________________________________________ RoundCube Dev mailing list Dev(a)lists.roundcube.net http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev

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Welcome!
by Jason Fesler 24 Jul '07

24 Jul '07

bob(a)db.org said: >the time has come to move the RoundCube mailing lists to their new home. Folks, I've made the changes needed to move the lists to the new home. There should be no interruption; Bob is running the list in parallel until DNS fully moves as far as the public DNS caches are concerned. A quick intro about me: I'm Jason Fesler, nobody particularly special. I've worked with mail and usenet for a very long time, including writing a gateway between uucp/smtp/nntp to/from FidoNet (yes, I have some gray hairs), and I've had a number of scars fighting spam to keep mail a relevant and viable medium for my users. I've been working in this medium since 1993. I'm reachable as jfesler(a)gigo.com (email, jabber). I'm also reachable as postmaster(a)lists.roundcube.net (not spam filtered). Changes for the lists.. For spam reasons, only people who are subscribed, can post. Sorry! This makes a *huge* difference on mailing list hosting, particularly for the moderators and list operator (me). You are more than welcome to subscribe more than once - and, if desired, set your options to "no mail" mode. Speaking of options, http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/users http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/announce Scroll to the bottom field, enter your email address, hit the "Unsubscribe or edit options" button. Your password, if you had one previously, is different now. The options page can mail you your new password. I have not yet earned your trust, so it would have been inappriate for Bob to send me whatever passwords you had. You are welcome to change your password (again, above urls). In case you forget the url - look at the bottom of any post. You'll find the url for that specific list. Other changes: Posting attachments - The attachments will be "detached" and replaced by a url; the attachments will be web accessible. Sending attachments can get expensive. This way, only those interested in seeing the picture will burn up bandwidth fetching it. Likewise, those NOT interested, don't have to download it. An example is in this post. Archives - http://lists.roundcube.net has links. The urls for old links will have changed - there was no way to reliably keep them identical. Anyone who clicks a link to the old urls will be taken to the top level page. The archives now have a search feature. It isn't fancy, but it does work (just simple ht://dig). -- Jason Fesler, email/jabber <jfesler(a)gigo.com> resume: http://jfesler.com "Give a man fire, and he'll be warm for a day; set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- The following attachments have been detached and are available for viewing. http://detached.gigo.com/mm/X4/G1PCMh8e/banner.gif Only click these links if you trust the sender, as well as this message. --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- _______________________________________________ RoundCube Dev mailing list Dev(a)lists.roundcube.net http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev

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