Ok, so iframe is not deprecated in XHTML 1.0, but is in 1.1+, replaced
with the object tag, but apparently not targetable.
So yeah I agree with the iframe as RC is 1.0, hopefully without any
stripping of the html part.
I'm not sure what you mean by how much space the message header will use.
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:32:58 +1100, Thomas Bruederli roundcube@gmail.com
wrote:
Chris Fordham wrote:
Is the iframe tag now deprecated? I think the only completely valid way is to use a normal frameset, or the html part to open in a new window. It needs to be in a frame or its own window because of possible headers in the html and particularly the DTD. It would be great for email clients to support the html part as a actual html document (selectable DTD) and not some quirks mode (also no stripping of the html part). I think that clicking on a link to open the html part in a new window by itself and pass only the html part to that window would be best IMHO.
I already hear the users complain about this. Nobody wants to click twice to get the message body for reading. iframes would do best here but I had some problems with the CSS styling, especially the proper scaling to the window size. We don't know exactly how much space the message headers will use and this makes it very difficult to set position, with and height of the message body's iframe.
Thomas
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:35:40 +1100, Thomas Bruederli roundcube@gmail.com wrote:
Chris Fordham wrote:
I'm not sure what RC does with HTML parts, but I have heard that it doesn't really support them - can someone confirm? I have managed to make hybrid layouts with html 4.01 to work in most clients. Lots of servers strip HTML a lot, especially hotmail.
The main problem is that the HTML message has to be displayed INSIDE
the XHTML body of the RoundCube page. RC tries to modify the HTML message body in order to display it correctly. It worked for most of the test mails I tried but it's not a 100% guaranty that all HTML show up correctly. Since RC uses XHTML for its interface a malformed HTML message (i.e. tags not closed) can indeed mess up the whole interface. One solution would be to render the HTML message is it's own iframe and not within the main page.I cannot confirm that RoundCube does not support HTML messages at all.
Regards, Thomas
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:51:55 +1100, Tony Zielinski tony@webavant.com wrote:
Brady,
I beg to differ with your opinion of the eBay HTML email that he Stefan Ott attached. You say that it was coded using old standards, I'm sure you're right, but for a good reason. I tried using <div> tags for layout instead of <table> tags with horrendous display in RoundCube. It looked good in other clients. I submitted a post about this earlier to the dev list, but no one responded.
Not related to RoundCube, but try coding all design and layout using
a stylesheet with no inline HTML attributes and viewing it in gmail or other another popular webmail. Outlook and AppleMail display the output okay for the most part, except the links don't get the same treatment that
they would in IE or FireFox... For real kicks, try kMail for KDE.I always code my HTML email pages plain vanilla HTML 2.0 circa 1995 fashion for the above reasons. Using 'style' attributes inline with HTML
tags seems to work okay in the clients I've tested as well as long as you don't use 'class' or 'id' attributes it seems to work well.-- Tony Zielinski
-----Original Message----- From: Brady J. Frey [mailto:brady@dotfive.com] Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 8:35 AM To: Stefan Ott Cc: dev@lists.roundcube.net; users@lists.roundcube.net Subject: Re: HTML E-Mails from eBay
Stefan Ott wrote:
Hi,
I use Roundcube 0.1beta and I have problems with E-Mails from eBay.
I only get a blank page, with all other html mails it works. I attached thesource
of an eBay mail maybe someone can figure it out what causes this problem.
Thanks steve`
Aside from the fact that, even for HTML email which is behind the standards times, that HTML looks like a 5 year old coded it -- the rendering of all html is based on the browser you are using -- what browser is that?
--Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client:
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