Could the listmoderator please let my previous message through?
I think fixing your installation so that it sets envelope from properly is a more useful course of action than asking every mailing list you try to use to change how they are set up. If you can't use that fifth parameter then use SMTP for sending.
As you may have noticed, my other messages do get through to the list, and they go through without intervention or moderation. I am not asking for a change in setup, I'm just asking for one message to be allowed through, something that is entirely possible with the mailinglist software.
Also: it's not my installation and it's not broken, either. It just runs in safe mode, and safe mode doesn't allow a 5th parameter in mail(). Safe mode is a very common 'feature' on commercial virtual hosted systems.
All moot, because the message doesn't even show up in my sent items list, so it's probably now part of Saturn's ring (either that, or I just didn't hit send, whichever sounds more plausible ;)
I forgot to mention that bounced mail also uses the envelope from to determine where the bounce goes. So you'll never get any notice that mail bounced. It'll just go to the webserver's account, which presumably is redirected to root. That might be okay if you're the only person using the system (and have root's mail redirected to yourself) but it isn't really viable for multiuser systems.
The return-path email is redirected to my regular address, and it's not the webserver's user or email nor root. It's the main address that came with my hosting account and has my hosting loginname as the user and remmelt.com as the domain part. It's on a regular commercial multi-user virtual hosts system running Apache.
Anyway, as you said it's because I took that 5th parameter out :)
I tried SMTP but I'm not sure if my account provides that, the error is: SMTP Error in /usr/home/deb1260/domains/remmelt.com/public_html/roundcubemail/program/steps/mail/sendmail.inc (183): SMTP error: Failed to add recipient 'remmelt@gmail.com'
Looks like it doesn't, then.
Thanks!
Remmelt