On 7/9/07, Larry Garfield larry@garfieldtech.com wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 18:10:14 +0200, till klimpong@gmail.com wrote:
By now you have probably heard about GoPHP5. (If not, please see http://GoPHP5.org/ for more about it.) I also recall reading recently
that
RoundCube was considering a move to PHP 5 already.
I suppose it shouldn't come as a surprise that I would be very happy if
that
were true. :-) In just the few short days that GoPHP5 has been "live",
we've
grown to over 20 projects and over 40 supporting web hosts. The PHP development team is also considering dropping support for PHP 4 next
year.
Please consider this a formal invitation for RoundCube to join GoPHP5.
If you
have any questions, I'll still be on the list so just ask. :-)
Good you made it here. We've had our own personal discussion about PHP5 if you check the list archives (http://lists.roundcube.net) a while ago and personally I've followed the discussion on the mailinglists of SM, PEAR and Smarty - so IMHO this really is the way to go.
When Thomas gets to his email, I am sure he will comment also on if we'll commit to your deadline as well. For right now we decided to make the "devel-vnext" branch PHP5 only and I am in the middle of porting everything. But (of course) we have no date when it's due.
Cheers, Till
Of course. Standard open source procedure. :-) That's great to hear, though.
One of the objections I saw repeated a few times in the earlier thread reading through it just now was "there's no killer apps on PHP 5". I suppose that's subject to interpretation, as there's a fair number of quite good PHP 5 apps out there (killer or otherwise). The goal of GoPHP5, however, is to not wait for "the" killer app, but to make all of the involved projects together the "killer apps". If phpMyAdmin, Drupal, Symfony, Typo3, RoundCube, etc. all require PHP 5, there's your killer app suite right there.
Yeah, well. Personally a framework like Symfony (or Zend Framework in my case) is killer^H^H^H^reason enough to use PHP5. But I think most people who commented don't look at it from a developer perspective - rather system administrators. At least that was my impression.
How you go about making use of PHP 5 is up to each project. PHP 5.2 in particular adds the ability for PHP apps to give meaningful upload progress meters, for instance. That could be useful for adding attachments to messages. So there are front-end improvements that could be made, independent of the other developer benefits that PHP 5 offers.
That's actually a pretty good idea, I had a look at the code the other day and a progress meter wouldn't be so bad. Would you have a link I could follow?
If you're already targeting PHP 5 for the next branch, it sounds like RC is already moving along.
I hope! :-)
Cheers, Till