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Signature positioning configuration
by Tristan Muzard 09 May '15

09 May '15

--- Original Language (French) --- Bonjour, Depuis hier les signatures ne se positionne plus à la suite en bas de message mais en lien avec la réponse, hors pour plein de raison nous somme nombreux à ne pas vouloir que les signatures soit en bas et les réponses au dessus des messages. Hors cette configuration n'est pas personnalisable. Je reste à votre dispo pour plus d'info. Cordialement. --- Auto-Translate : --- Hello, Since yesterday the signatures is positioned more as a result at the bottom of the message, but in connection with the answer, except for a lot of money because many of us do not want that signatures is down and the responses to the above messages. Excluding this configuration is not customizable. I remain at your avail for more info. Sincerely. -- Tristan

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problem withSENDER and reply-to EMAILS.
by Rad Koi 07 May '15

07 May '15

Please, can anybody help me configure my email identity settings? My friend can receive emails to his webmail identy without filling in his REPLY-TO. For me I've tried asking him but he is selfish and would not like to tecah me. How do I receive messages to my webmail id if my SENDER EMAIL is added and no REPLY-TO?Thanks.

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Join us at the Kolab Summit in The Hague
by Thomas Bruederli 01 May '15

01 May '15

Dear Roundcube users and affiliates The Roundcube development team gathers this weekend in The Hague at the first Kolab Summit. If you can make it there, we'd love to meet you in person and talk to you about the future of Roundcube. More information about the event and the location can be found here: https://conference.kolab.org Kind regards, Thomas

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is it possible to disable use_secure_urls for some pages?
by martijn.list 30 Apr '15

30 Apr '15

Hi, Enabling use_secure_urls has some side effects which I'm looking at how to solve. For example, a user might have defined a bookmark to the RC login page (www.example.com/webmail/). This works find just as long as the user is not yet logged in. However if the user is already logged in and the user wants to check whether there is any new mail and therefore clicks the bookmark, an error page with "Access to this service was denied due to failing security checks!" is shown. The user should then click the "click here to try again" link which will redo the request but now with the correct token in the URL. Since the GET request is redone but now with the correct token added, to me it looks like checking the URL token for GET requests will not bring additional security because if the user clicks the "click here to try again" link, the request will be done anyway. Is it possible to disable the secure URL check for certain pages and/or requests? Perhaps with a plugin? or is it all or nothing? Kind regards, Martijn Brinkers

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- Comparing roundcube vs OpenWebMail
by webmaster 29 Apr '15

29 Apr '15

I am examining the features and benefits of roundbox webmail. Since I have 7 years of mailboxes using OpenWebMail, another webmail, I have to take the decision if it is worth to migrate to roundcube now that I am contracting a different VPS with 1&1. First, if all my Sendmail mailserver OpenWebMail mailboxes contents Inbox, Sentmail, etc, can be read by roundcube or not. Second, compare the features of each one. OpenWebMail has tons of features, webdisk, multilanguage, customization, etc. and so does roundcube, so is there someone who knows OpenWebMail and can assist in comparing both? Much obliged !

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Plugin markasfilter
by Renata Dias 27 Apr '15

27 Apr '15

Hello all, I recently installed the RoundCube and add the plugin "markasjunk", but, how we know, this just move the message to Spam/Junk folder. I know that exist "markasjunk2" that is possible configure SpamAssassin AutoLearn, but I can't reconfigure SpamAssassin righnow. I just need a plugin that create a new filter every time user click "mark as junk". Can anyone help me? Tks. -- Renata Dias

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SourceForge RackHunter protection is still recommended ?
by webmaster 25 Apr '15

25 Apr '15

I wonder if http://rkhunter.sourceforge.net/ is still recommended to be installed as a security measure on servers. Since SourceForge is behind roundcube, I assumed this could be asked here. If not, kindly advise where to ask about rkhunter last version for Linux server. Thanks

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Plugin Junk+Filter
by Renata Dias 22 Apr '15

22 Apr '15

Hello all, I recently installed the RoundCube and add the plugin "markasjunk", but, how we know, this just move the message to Spam/Junk folder. I know that exist "markasjunk2" that is possible configure SpamAssassin AutoLearn, but I can't reconfigure SpamAssassin righnow. I just need a plugin that create a new filter every time user click "mark as junk". Can anyone help me? Tks. -- Renata Dias

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Plugin Spam/Junk + Filter
by Renata Dias 22 Apr '15

22 Apr '15

Hello all, I recently installed the RoundCube and add the plugin "markasjunk", but, how we know, this just move the message to Spam/Junk folder. I know that exist "markasjunk2" that is possible configure SpamAssassin AutoLearn, but I can't reconfigure SpamAssassin righnow. I just need a plugin that create a new filter every time user click "mark as junk". Can anyone help me? Tks. -- Renata Dias

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[contacts]: LDAP contacts addition does not seems to handle variables
by Charlie Mordant 17 Apr '15

17 Apr '15

Hi Roundcube experts! We've got an ldap structure like this one {{{ dc=tld,dc=dn,ou=people,ou=company,uid=foo dc=tld,dc=dn,ou=people,ou=contacts,ou=foo,cn=foocontact1 dc=tld,dc=dn,ou=specialUser,cn=contactWriter }}} With the following roundcube configuration for contacts (company ldap is another one), we're using this configuration: {{{ $rcmail_config['ldap_public']['Personal'] = array( 'name' => 'Personal', 'hosts' => array('<% if @dirsrvprefix %><%= @dirsrvprefix %>.<% end %><%= @dn %>.<%= @tld %>'), 'port' => 389, 'use_tls' => false, 'ldap_version' => 3, // using LDAPv3 'network_timeout' => 10, // The timeout (in seconds) for connect + bind arrempts. This is only supported in PHP >= 5.3.0 with OpenLDAP 2.x 'user_specific' => false, // If true the base_dn, bind_dn and bind_pass default to the user's IMAP login. 'base_dn' => 'ou=%u,ou=contacts,ou=people,dc=<%= @dn %>,dc=<%= @tld %>',// 'bind_dn' => 'cn=<%= @contactSO %>,ou=Special users,dc=<%= @dn %>,dc=<%= @tld %>', 'bind_pass' => '<%= @contactSOPwd %>', 'search_base_dn' => 'ou=%u,ou=<%= @contactOu %>,ou=people,dc=<%= @dn %>,dc=<%= @tld %>', 'search_filter' => '(objectClass=inetOrgPerson)', (uid=%u))' 'search_bind_dn' => 'cn=<%= @contactSO %>,ou=Special users,dc=<%= @dn %>,dc=<%= @tld %>', 'search_bind_pw' => '<%= @contactSOPwd %>', 'hidden' => false, 'searchonly' => false, 'writable' => true, 'LDAP_Object_Classes' => array('top', 'person','organizationalPerson','inetOrgPerson'), 'LDAP_rdn' => 'cn', 'required_fields' => array('cn', 'sn', 'mail'), 'search_fields' => array('mail', 'sn', 'cn'), // fields to search in 'fieldmap' => array( 'name' => 'givenName', 'surname' => 'sn', 'firstname' => 'cn', 'email' => 'mail', ), ), 'sort' => 'cn', // The field to sort the listing by. 'scope' => 'sub', // search mode: sub|base|list 'filter' => '(objectClass=inetOrgPerson)', // used for basic listing (if not empty) and will be &'d with search queries. example: status=act 'fuzzy_search' => true, // server allows wildcard search 'vlv' => false, // Enable Virtual List View to more efficiently fetch paginated data (if server supports it) 'sizelimit' => '0', // Enables you to limit the count of entries fetched. Setting this to 0 means no limit. 'timelimit' => '0', // Sets the number of seconds how long is spend on the search. Setting this to 0 means no limit. 'referrals' => false, ); }}} With this configuration, we'll hope that creating a new 'foocontact1' via the GUI while logging with 'foo' would add it as dc=tld,dc=dn,ou=people,ou=contacts,ou=foo,cn=foocontact1, and that search for this user will only resolve entries that are located in dc=tld,dc=dn,ou=people,ou=contacts,ou=foo Unfortunately, using roundcube V 0.9.5-1.fc19 , entries are not created, and the log seems to show that {{{ %u }}} doesn't seem to be resolved while adding or searching: {{{ [12-Apr-2015 17:28:44 +0000]: S: OK [12-Apr-2015 17:28:44 +0000]: C: Bind [dn: cn=roundcubeContactsWriter,ou=Special Users,dc=osgiliath.is-a-chef,dc=net] [pass: MyUltraProtectedRouncubeLdapContactsPassword] [12-Apr-2015 17:28:44 +0000]: S: OK [12-Apr-2015 17:28:44 +0000]: C: Close [12-Apr-2015 17:28:51 +0000]: C: Connect [ contacts.osgiliath.is-a-chef.net:389] [Personal] [12-Apr-2015 17:28:51 +0000]: S: OK [12-Apr-2015 17:28:51 +0000]: C: Bind [dn: cn=roundcubeContactsWriter,ou=Special Users,dc=osgiliath.is-a-chef,dc=net] [pass: MyUltraProtectedRouncubeLdapContactsPassword] [12-Apr-2015 17:28:51 +0000]: S: OK [12-Apr-2015 17:28:51 +0000]: C: Search [(&(objectClass=inetOrgPerson)(|(mail=aa(a)aa.a)))][dn: ou=%u,ou=contacts,ou=people,dc=osgiliath.is-a-chef,dc=net] [12-Apr-2015 17:28:51 +0000]: S: No such object [12-Apr-2015 17:28:51 +0000]: C: Search [(&(objectClass=inetOrgPerson)(|(mail=aa(a)aa.a)))][dn: ou=%u,ou=contacts,ou=people,dc=osgiliath.is-a-chef,dc=net] [12-Apr-2015 17:28:51 +0000]: S: No such object [12-Apr-2015 17:28:51 +0000]: C: Add [dn: cn=aa,ou=%u,ou=contacts,ou=people,dc=osgiliath.is-a-chef,dc=net]: Array ( [givenname] => aa aa [sn] => aa [cn] => aa [mail] => aa(a)aa.a [objectClass] => Array ( [0] => top [1] => person [2] => organizationalPerson [3] => inetOrgPerson ) ) }}} Regards, -- Charlie Mordant Full OSGI/EE stack made with Karaf: https://github.com/OsgiliathEnterprise/net.osgiliath.parent

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Multiserver Dropdown List didn't work (v 1.1.1)
by alexander.rehbein＠fmex.de 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

Hello, I've setup Roundcube 1.1.1 on an server with PHP 5.6. In my config file I defined an array with two server. But I didn't get a dropdown list on the login page. $config['default_host'] = array ( 'ssl://server1:993', 'tls://server2:143' ); Has anyone an idea what is wrong or did this function changed in Version 1.1? Greetings Alexander Rehbein

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password plugin: bug in the vpopmaild driver
by Roberto Puzzanghera 31 Mar '15

31 Mar '15

Hello, in the password plugin of the latest roundcubemail-1.1.1 the change password connection is not working because of an error, causing a "$addr cannot be empty ()" error in my log. The file drivers/vpopmaild.php has to patched in this way - $result = $vpopmaild->connect($hostname, $port, null); + $result = $vpopmaild->connect($host, $port, null); at the beginning of the save() method. regards Roberto

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Roundcube Special Folders in Dovecot
by Matthias Radmüller 23 Mar '15

23 Mar '15

Hello, I've configured XLIST and the Namespace in my Dovecot Server. In the Roundcube settings it is possible to define the Special Folder List. Is ist possible to configure Dovecot that the Special Folders set up with Roundcube are also marked when performing a IMAP List Request? Thanks

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Update 1.1.1 released
by Thomas Bruederli 18 Mar '15

18 Mar '15

Dear Roundcube users We're proud to announce the first service release to the stable version 1.1 of Roundcube webmail. It contains some important bug fixes and improvements in error handling as well as a few new features and configuration options. See the full Changelog here: http://trac.roundcube.net/wiki/Changelog It's considered stable and we recommend to update all productive installations of Roundcube with this version. Download it from http://roundcube.net/download. And remember: backup before you update! Kind regards, Thomas

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Connection to storage server failed
by Robert Moskowitz 18 Mar '15

18 Mar '15

My one active Roundcubemail user started getting this message recently and of course cannot access his mail. So I googled it and landed at: http://help.directadmin.com/item.php?id=473 I did the process of deleting his dovecot files. My directory layout is different, everything is under /home/vmail/doman/user/ Still cannot log in, and now no dovecot files (btw, I tested this with one of my accounts that uses Thunderbird for imap connections and new dovecot files were built). I read on down the suggestions, but am not finding anything. I can't really tell about the password problem, as I use mysql for the password. Any suggestions of how to fix this?

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Problem running the calendar sql-command
by T. Ermlich 17 Mar '15

17 Mar '15

Hello, some days ago I did a cleam installation of Roundcube, as offered I downloaded version 1.1.0. Installation went well, Roundcube is working as intended. Yesterday I installed calendar-plugin, an run: mysql -u root -p roundcubemail < /var/lib/roundcube/plugins/calendar/drivers/database/SQL/mysql.initial.sql After typing the password I get: ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 26: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MariaDB server version for the right syntax to use near 'tinyint(1) NOT NULL DEFAULT '0', `created` datetime NOT NULL DEFAULT '1000-01-' at line 7 Is there a problem with the SQL-code, or is this a problem with MariaDB? Thaanks a lot! Cheers, Torsten

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Can't install Kolab plugins
by russell＠zeropointnetworks.com 11 Mar '15

11 Mar '15

Hi I'm trying to install the Kolab calendar plugin using Composer, but getting the following error. I'm able to download other plugins (I've downloaded roundcube/carddav and johndoh/globaladdressbook). Is anyone able to help? I'm using Roundcube 1.0.5 from Bitnami. Loading composer repositories with package information Updating dependencies (including require-dev) - Installing kolab/libcalendaring (dev-master 55bbb2c) Cloning 55bbb2c063a57c130fd1d38ee47ef14c5b983f6a [RuntimeException] Failed to execute git clone --no-checkout 'git://gitorious.org/kolab-roundcube-plugins/libcalendaring.git' '/opt/roundcube-1.0.5-0/apps /roundcube/htdocs/plugins/libcalendaring' && cd '/opt/roundcube-1.0.5-0/apps/roundcube/htdocs/plugins/libcalendaring' && git remote add composer 'git://gitorious.org/kolab-roundcube-plugins/libcalendaring.git' && git fetch composer Cloning into '/opt/roundcube-1.0.5-0/apps/roundcube/htdocs/plugins/libcalendaring'... fatal: Could not read from remote repository. Please make sure you have the correct access rights and the repository exists. update [--prefer-source] [--prefer-dist] [--dry-run] [--dev] [--no-dev] [--lock] [--no-plugins] [--no-custom-installers] [--no-autoloader] [--no-scripts] [--no-progress] [--with-dependencies] [-v|vv|vvv|--verbose] [-o|--optimize-autoloader] [--ignore-platform-reqs] [--prefer-stable] [--prefer-lowest] [packages1] ... [packagesN] Kind regards Russell Hurren Managing Director Zero Point Networks PTY LTD

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Embedding roundcube UI into AngularJS application
by Pavel Zubkou 09 Mar '15

09 Mar '15

Hello, I am about to integrate roundcube with existing CRM application we develop. Other than creating plugins for server side and client side, I plan to embed roundcube inline into existing application build on AngularJS. The plan is to embed roundcube UI into AngularJS app using an iframe element: 1) Configure roundcube to render only email related UI, without "chrome" elements, i.e. header and footer. 2) Apply our styling to all roundcube UI, using a plugin. 3) Implement plugins allowing to add UI elements and behaviour to roundcube UI for quick interaction with our CRM using postMessage API. The goal is to create smooth integration allowing users to work with email and CRM information at the same time. Could fellow users please help me understand the issues I am about to face or point me to relevant documentation or source code. Thanks for help! -- With best regards, Pavel Zubkou.

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CARDDAV unknown SSL error
by Leonardo Arena 04 Mar '15

04 Mar '15

Hi list, I've recently upgraded to PHP 5.6 and this problem has shown up: roundcube: cdfopen: Could not open: 0 could not connect to the host " myhost.mydomain.me": stream_socket_client(): unable to connect to ssl:// 127.0.0.1:443 (Unknown error) I've loaded the CA file into "openssl.cafile" php.ini but no workey. Could anybody shed some light on the nature of the error, or at least how to get more debugging info in order to fix it? I'm using RC 1.0.4 Thanks! - leo

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Error in DDL upgrade while upgrading from 0.9.5 to 1.0.5
by Roderick Johnstone 26 Feb '15

26 Feb '15

Hi On upgrading to roundcube 1.0.5 from 0.9.5 using installto.sh I got: Executing database schema update. PHP Warning: Directive 'magic_quotes_gpc' is deprecated in PHP 5.3 and greater in Unknown on line 0 Updating database schema (2013042700)... [OK] Updating database schema (2013052500)... [OK] Updating database schema (2013061000)... [FAILED] ERROR: Error in DDL upgrade 2013061000: [7] ERROR: relation "cache_index" does not existAll done. This is with a postgres database. How can I fix this please? Thanks Roderick Johnstone

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Re: [RCU] Fileino, Mcrypt, Exif
by Dan Langille 22 Feb '15

22 Feb '15

> On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl(a)thelounge.net> wrote: > > > Am 22.02.2015 um 21:02 schrieb Dan Langille: >> The next couple of extensions are optional and recommended to get the best performance: >> >> FileInfo: NOT AVAILABLE(Could be loaded. Please add in php.ini; See http://www.php.net/manual/en/book.fileinfo.php) >> Libiconv: OK >> Multibyte: OK >> OpenSSL: OK >> Mcrypt: NOT AVAILABLE(Could be loaded. Please add in php.ini; See http://www.php.net/manual/en/book.mcrypt.php) >> Intl: OK >> Exif: NOT AVAILABLE(Could be loaded. Please add in php.ini; See http://www.php.net/manual/en/book.exif.php) >> ### >> >> The link provided for Fileinfo has "This extension has no configuration directives defined in php.ini." (when you dig into the links on the first page) >> >> I know I have these installed: >> >> php55-fileinfo-5.5.21 >> libmcrypt-2.5.8_2 >> php55-mcrypt-5.5.21_1 >> php55-exif-5.5.21 >> >> Could someone please indicate what php.ini entries are necessary to get those extensions to work? > > are the extension *enabled* and not only installed somewhere? > "php -m" is your friend i see them listed. What's up with that? # php -m [PHP Modules] bcmath Core ctype date dom ereg exif fileinfo filter gd hash iconv intl json libxml mbstring mcrypt mhash mysql mysqlnd openssl pcre PDO pdo_sqlite pgsql Phar posix pspell Reflection session SimpleXML SPL standard tokenizer xml xmlreader xmlwriter Zend OPcache zip [Zend Modules] Zend OPcache > extension = "fileinfo.so" > extension = "mcrypt.so" > extnesion = "exif.so" Adding those to php.ini doesn't help. FYI, FreeBSD 9.3 here. — Dan Langille http://langille.org/

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Fileino, Mcrypt, Exif
by Dan Langille 22 Feb '15

22 Feb '15

The 'Roundcube Webmail Installer' says: ### The next couple of extensions are optional and recommended to get the best performance: FileInfo: NOT AVAILABLE(Could be loaded. Please add in php.ini; See http://www.php.net/manual/en/book.fileinfo.php) Libiconv: OK Multibyte: OK OpenSSL: OK Mcrypt: NOT AVAILABLE(Could be loaded. Please add in php.ini; See http://www.php.net/manual/en/book.mcrypt.php) Intl: OK Exif: NOT AVAILABLE(Could be loaded. Please add in php.ini; See http://www.php.net/manual/en/book.exif.php) ### The link provided for Fileinfo has "This extension has no configuration directives defined in php.ini." (when you dig into the links on the first page) I know I have these installed: php55-fileinfo-5.5.21 libmcrypt-2.5.8_2 php55-mcrypt-5.5.21_1 php55-exif-5.5.21 Could someone please indicate what php.ini entries are necessary to get those extensions to work? — Dan Langille http://langille.org/

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R: Re: Auto subscribe IMAP folder
by absolutely_free＠libero.it 20 Feb '15

20 Feb '15

Sorry, I tried with: >$config['imap_force_lsub'] = true; >$config['imap_force_ns'] = true; but without success; is there a way to obtain automatic imap-folder subscription in RC (1.0.5)? My server mail is Dovecot (on cPanel server) Thank you >----Messaggio originale---- >Da: roundcube-users(a)whyaskwhy.org >Data: 15/11/2014 1.34 >A: <users(a)lists.roundcube.net> >Ogg: Re: [RCU] Auto subscribe IMAP folder > >On 11/7/2014 6:30 AM, absolutely_free(a)libero.it wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I created at file system level a custom folder "Archive" in every Maildir. > >What IMAP server software do you use? If you use Dovecot it can create those >custom folders for you. I think with 2.0.x it was through a separate plugin, >with 2.2.x it comes built-in. > >http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Plugins/Autocreate >http://wiki2.dovecot.org/MailboxSettings > >> Is there a way to let RC auto-suscribe those new folders? >> >> I put this in defaults.inc.php > > >It may have the same effect, but I think you're supposed to put your custom options > in config.inc.php. Of course I may have a different version than you. > >> >> $config['default_folders'] = array('INBOX', 'Drafts', 'Sent', 'Junk', >> 'Trash', 'Archive'); >> $config['create_default_folders'] = true; >> >> But this works only for NEW users (never logged in) have Archive folder >> already subscribed. > >I grepped through defaults.inc.php on my installation and found this: > > >// By default list of subscribed folders is determined using LIST-EXTENDED >// extension if available. Some servers (dovecot 1.x) returns wrong results >// for shared namespaces in this case. http://trac.roundcube. net/ticket/1486225 >// Enable this option to force LSUB command usage instead. >// Deprecated: Use imap_disabled_caps = array('LIST-EXTENDED') >$config['imap_force_lsub'] = false; > >// Some server configurations (e.g. Courier) doesn't list folders in all namespaces >// Enable this option to force listing of folders in all namespaces >$config['imap_force_ns'] = false; > > >Perhaps that last one would be of help? >_______________________________________________ >Roundcube Users mailing list >users(a)lists.roundcube.net >http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/users >

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Re: [RCU] Point of information
by Oliver Welter 20 Feb '15

20 Feb '15

Use Mail encryption, anything else is snakeoil as there are lots of possibilities for others to get into your mail. Oliver Von Samsung-Tablet gesendet -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------- Von: jfmxl <jfmxl(a)SDF.ORG> Datum: 18.02.2015 02:40 (GMT+01:00) An: Roundcube Users mailing list <users(a)lists.roundcube.net> Betreff: Re: [RCU] Point of information I'll look into it. Although I have little to no money and no means of paying for anything other than by international money order if I went for this. I had a vps with ... what turned out to be viaverio, after several rounds of merger ... for twenty years. But I never trusted them ... once it occurred to me to consider whether I did or not. Then I could no longer afford them, or pay them in any case, anyway. Why should I trust FileMedia? If I could afford them. I'll try to look them up. What I have now is a shell account and limited webserver, and mail as described, from this outfit, for a one-time fee of one dollar. I bought a buck and mailed it to him/them. I asked lots of questions, like are you the NSA? Got zero answers. I have to assume it's an NSA honeypot. But so may FileMedia be. Well not a honeypot, but a 'cooperative' commercial provider as are Google and the rest. At least the NSA won't bother to sell me out to the TNCs ... the sell-out traffic is all in the other direction. Maybe there's a way to run mail over i2p myself. I had a mail account there ... still based on trust ... but one day they just just me down. No notice, no nothing. They're a pretty arbitrary bunch of geek gatekeepers. And there's still the connection to the 'real' darpanet to negotiate. Oh well, there is no such thing as privacy, certainly not security, any longer in this web worldwide. I might as well stick with what I have. With those bastards from the NSA looking over my shoulder. collecting everything I do on the web 'for future reference'. At least with the NSA I'm not commercially compromised. Not so with Google. On 2015-02-18 07:59, Noel Butler wrote: > Then get that unmanaged VPS, you will control it, although since it's > not located locally there still exists a small risk, I use FileMedia > for my personal offsite, reliable, and friendly service, you can then > pop3 from it, keeping bulk of your mail local, and since you'd only > need it for light storage, you could get away with the smallest plan, > you wont need bells and whistles. > > On 18/02/2015 10:17, jfmxl wrote: > >> Thanks for the advice. I tried to run my own mail server, tried >> dynamic dns, but my ISP won't allow it, apparently. Couldn't make a >> connection to an smtp port. > > _______________________________________________ > Roundcube Users mailing list > users(a)lists.roundcube.net > http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ Roundcube Users mailing list users(a)lists.roundcube.net http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/users

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Point of information
by jfmxl 17 Feb '15

17 Feb '15

Here's a question. I like the idea of pop mail. My mail program downloads my mail from my mail server and that's it. The mail is deleted from my mail server. With webmail, my mail server has all my mail forever, for easy reading at their leisure. Now I realize that there is no longer any trust in this world, that the NSA has long since destroyed all that, betrayed us all, and that the internet is actually no more than a spy platform now rather than the glorious enabler of freedom that we, I anyway, foolishly thought it was ... that darpa played us all for fools. Still ... What I do now is set my mail reading program to retrieve my mail from my mail provider, save what I want locally using my mail reading program, then use round cube to answer what I want to answer and move all the mail to the trash before exiting. I have to use round cube to answer my mail because my provider offers only imap and does not allow me to send imap mail except through its round cube. For all I know sdf.org is operated by th NSA. I asked, got no response. So how do I know my mail is really being deleted at my mail provider's server. Google never ever deletes mail. The only one who loses access to deleted google mail is the person to whom it is addressed. I assume the same is true of round cube mail? That my email provider retains copies of all my mail, and the only who loses access to it is myself when I delete it? I also realize that my provider could simply copy all my pop3 mail on receipt ... but at least that is a overt dirty filthy trick. It seems to be a 'feature' of webmail?

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