Am 27.01.2013 05:48, schrieb Noel Butler:
On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 02:56 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 27.01.2013 02:51, schrieb Noel Butler:
On Sat, 2013-01-26 at 16:39 +0100, emilio brambilla wrote:
I mean a stable release with security/important patch and no new features. when you introduce a webmail in a production environment where they train users for the webmail usage, it's hard to change things, that's why I'd like a supported for long time stable version.
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so long as you dont drastically change the way end users use the software there is no reason to turn roundcube into another debian/fedora specific program. Or are you also not going to install any new plugins, after all, that's all they are - "new features"
Depriving users of new features will only see your customers find a provider that offers them
then kiss them goodbye
no problems your opposition will gladly accept them
there are enough customers (especially business customers and they are the ones who really pay money) which are thankful for stability instead braindead featuritis and permanently changing interfaces for the sake of the change
You seem to speak a lot of shit on many lists
your opinion - but trust me: it does not bother me really
but it seems today your brain is in your arse, if you took that attitude with me, I'd sack your arse.
boy you would get this attitude too if you are responsible fro any IT servieyou can imagine and each day anotehr project breaks compatibility for zero benefit
You've been brainwashed by likes of debian trolls for too long.
bullshit - i am fedora user 3.7.4-204.fc18.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 23 16:44:29 UTC 2013
but that does not chnage the fact that as software-developer i can decide between well implemented improvements and chages breaking things in ways changig the user expierence without benefits
and this is the biggest weakness of opensource: change for the sake of the change because way too much developers prapre implent features instead OPTIMIZE code and make it perfect
In nearly twenty years at a couple of large ISP's, we've never had this amazing problem you seem to have, and we've had some pretty clueless end users over the years.
I trust you too do not use any plugins, afterall you wont your version of stability and not later features :)
correct - a webmail has to bes stable and make zero work in my world are business users and they use webmail not as their primary client as i do not undrstand anybody which does
and that is where new features are have to placed: in plugins instead taint the core
the typical enduser has mostly no fun with this and even can not handle changing the label of a button from "save" to "upload images" where there is only one another button with "cancel" - that is the way "customers" work and understand changes
Never seen that or heard of it before
maybe because you are not software developer with direct contact to paying customers taking the phone if you changed things for them because you liked something better
perhaps you should ask your employer to use something like squirrelmail which doesnt change
perpahs i am in a position where i do not need to ask anybody for technical decisions, i decided years ago Horde to use until they splittet into a million subpackages making rpm-build to way too much work, and so we switched to roundcube and if there are happening often chnages like the larry theme - thank you goodbye
and yes - the change to another webmail takes me 2 days and i have done if there are good reasons