Roundcube is most typically, but not always, run with Dovecot, unless you rewrite bits of it, it will delete when you tell it to

The only real answer to this is, run your own mail server locally.

If you need to have a backup mail server, get a cheap VPS in Germany and set up a secondary MX.

* Although Germany is rife with american spies, the German authorities know who and where and make sure the yanks know that they know (remember the low buzzing of certain Embassy building and other U.S. Govt buildings by police choppers hahaha- loved that), and likely just as many Mi6 spies there too, Germany still has the strongest data protection laws in the world, and although the BND etc are not all clean hands, they are a darn sight cleaner than anywhere else in the world.

* Still cant work out why Merkel hasn't kicked those bastards out, hell, there probably more CIA agents in places like Ramstien, than their are air genuine military folk, and I'd kick them out as well, no Govt should have military bases in other countries.

On 18/02/2015 07:56, jfmxl wrote:

Here's a question. I like the idea of pop mail. My mail program downloads my mail from my mail server and that's it. The mail is deleted from my mail server.

With webmail, my mail server has all my mail forever, for easy reading at their leisure.

Now I realize that there is no longer any trust in this world, that the NSA has long since destroyed all that, betrayed us all, and that the internet is actually no more than a spy platform now rather than the glorious enabler of freedom that we, I anyway, foolishly thought it was ... that darpa played us all for fools. Still ...

What I do now is set my mail reading program to retrieve my mail from my mail provider, save what I want locally using my mail reading program, then use round cube to answer what I want to answer and move all the mail to the trash before exiting. I have to use round cube to answer my mail because my provider offers only imap and does not allow me to send imap mail except through its round cube. For all I know sdf.org is operated by th NSA. I asked, got no response.

So how do I know my mail is really being deleted at my mail provider's server. Google never ever deletes mail. The only one who loses access to deleted google mail is the person to whom it is addressed.

I assume the same is true of round cube mail? That my email provider retains copies of all my mail, and the only who loses access to it is myself when I delete it?

I also realize that my provider could simply copy all my pop3 mail on receipt ... but at least that is a overt dirty filthy trick. It seems to be a 'feature' of webmail?
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