I am using Roundcube SVN Version 2999 (latest), but ever since I started using Roundcube (a while ago) I have noticed that when I am composing or replying to an email the editor seems to add extra spacing lines (almost like double-spacing) and it is difficult to tell how the recipient will see the message -- i.e. with lots of extra space or not. Is there a way to correct this in the HTML editor and make the editor use single spacing instead of double spacing? I found that lists, such as bullet lists, are single spaced but regular text seems not to be.
I am typically using Firefox 3.5.3, but tested this on IE 8 and Google Chrome as well and saw the same results.
Thanks for any help! Keith
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:32:54 -0700 (PDT), Keith Schonrock peridoc77@yahoo.com wrote:
I am using Roundcube SVN Version 2999 (latest), but ever since I started using Roundcube (a while ago) I have noticed that when I am composing or replying to an email the editor seems to add extra spacing lines (almost like double-spacing) and it is difficult to tell how the recipient will
see
the message -- i.e. with lots of extra space or not. Is there a way to correct this in the HTML editor and make the editor use single spacing instead of double spacing? I found that lists, such as bullet lists,
are
single spaced but regular text seems not to be.
I am typically using Firefox 3.5.3, but tested this on IE 8 and Google Chrome as well and saw the same results.
This is because you are composing your message in HTML. When you hit enter the HTML editor is treating it like a new paragraph which adds the extra line. You can either hit alt-enter and it will give you a single line or switch to composing your messages in plain text.
I am not sure if the developers of Roundcude will change this behavior or not.
Jeff _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/users/
On Sep 29, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote:
I am not sure if the developers of Roundcude will change this
behavior or not.
The HTML editor for RC is TinyMCE, which is not created by the RC
developers.
So it would be up to the developers of TinyMCE to alter the behavior.
Version info from the " program/js/tiny_mce/tiny_mce.js " file : majorVersion:"3",minorVersion:"2.3",releaseDate:"2009-04-23",
There is another JavaScript editor that I know of.
http://ckeditor.com/
Not sure if you'd want to hack on swapping out TinyMCE for it in your
RC installation to see if you like it better.
----- Original Message ----
I am not sure if the developers of Roundcude will change this
behavior or not.The HTML editor for RC is TinyMCE, which is not created by the RC
developers. So it would be up to the developers of TinyMCE to alter the behavior.Version info from the " program/js/tiny_mce/tiny_mce.js " file : majorVersion:"3",minorVersion:"2.3",releaseDate:"2009-04-23",
There is another JavaScript editor that I know of.
Not sure if you'd want to hack on swapping out TinyMCE for it in your
RC installation to see if you like it better.
Probably not worth it for me hacking something together with another editor right now. At least I know now that Shift+Enter will get me a single line as opposed to a paragraph separated line (double space). That is much better than before, although it would be nice if this were able to be fixed for good in the future. It is very annoying. I do understand that it is not the RC dev's fault though...
Thanks for the help!
List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/users/
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:37:43 -0500, chasd chasd@silveroaks.com wrote:
On Sep 29, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote:
I am not sure if the developers of Roundcude will change this
behavior or not.The HTML editor for RC is TinyMCE, which is not created by the RC
developers. So it would be up to the developers of TinyMCE to alter the behavior.Version info from the " program/js/tiny_mce/tiny_mce.js " file : majorVersion:"3",minorVersion:"2.3",releaseDate:"2009-04-23",
There is another JavaScript editor that I know of. http://ckeditor.com/ Not sure if you'd want to hack on swapping out TinyMCE for it in your
RC installation to see if you like it better.
You can set the behavior of TinyMCE by editing program/js/editor.js as shown in the TinyMCE documentation here:
http://wiki.moxiecode.com/index.php/TinyMCE:Configuration/force_br_newlines _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/users/
----- Original Message ----
You can set the behavior of TinyMCE by editing program/js/editor.js as shown in the TinyMCE documentation here:
http://wiki.moxiecode.com/index.php/TinyMCE:Configuration/force_br_newlines
That worked great. :)
Thanks!!!
List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/users/
You can set the behavior of TinyMCE by editing program/js/editor.js as shown in the TinyMCE documentation here:
http://wiki.moxiecode.com/index.php/TinyMCE:Configuration/force_br_newlines
I do agree that paragraphs serve the purpose better. Is there a CSS that TinyMCE uses to compose emails? Perhaps it would be better to alter the CSS to whatever desired paragraph spacing rather than switch to BR tags.
My two cents.
// Andrés
-----Original Message----- From: users-bounces+andres.sulleiro=razorfish.com@lists.roundcube.net [mailto:users-bounces+andres.sulleiro=razorfish.com@lists.roundcube.net] On Behalf Of Arne Berglund Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:08 PM To: Roundcube Users List Subject: Re: [RCU] Line Spacing Issue in the HTML Text Editor
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:37:43 -0500, chasd chasd@silveroaks.com wrote:
On Sep 29, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote:
I am not sure if the developers of Roundcude will change this
behavior or not.The HTML editor for RC is TinyMCE, which is not created by the RC
developers. So it would be up to the developers of TinyMCE to alter the behavior.Version info from the " program/js/tiny_mce/tiny_mce.js " file : majorVersion:"3",minorVersion:"2.3",releaseDate:"2009-04-23",
There is another JavaScript editor that I know of. http://ckeditor.com/ Not sure if you'd want to hack on swapping out TinyMCE for it in your
RC installation to see if you like it better.
You can set the behavior of TinyMCE by editing program/js/editor.js as shown in the TinyMCE documentation here:
http://wiki.moxiecode.com/index.php/TinyMCE:Configuration/force_br_newlines _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/users/ _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/users/
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:42:38 -0700, Andres Sulleiro Andres.Sulleiro@razorfish.com wrote:
You can set the behavior of TinyMCE by editing program/js/editor.js as shown in the TinyMCE documentation here:
http://wiki.moxiecode.com/index.php/TinyMCE:Configuration/force_br_newlines
I do agree that paragraphs serve the purpose better. Is there a CSS that TinyMCE uses to compose emails? Perhaps it would be better to alter the
CSS
to whatever desired paragraph spacing rather than switch to BR tags.
My two cents.
// Andrés
I didn't say it was a good idea, just that it could be done. While I also think that paragraph tags are a more logical choice, it is quite different than many other mail clients. For example, both Apple's Mail.app and Thunderbird do line breaks by default, not paragraphs. So if consistency between clients is important, the BR tag may be a better choice.
-- Arne Berglund System Administrator, Internet Services Lane Education Service District Eugene, OR ______________ _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/users/
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:50:26 -0700, Arne Berglund aberglund@lesd.k12.or.us wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:42:38 -0700, Andres Sulleiro Andres.Sulleiro@razorfish.com wrote:
You can set the behavior of TinyMCE by editing program/js/editor.js as shown in the TinyMCE documentation here:
http://wiki.moxiecode.com/index.php/TinyMCE:Configuration/force_br_newlines
I do agree that paragraphs serve the purpose better. Is there a CSS
that
TinyMCE uses to compose emails? Perhaps it would be better to alter the
CSS
to whatever desired paragraph spacing rather than switch to BR tags.
My two cents.
// Andrés
I didn't say it was a good idea, just that it could be done. While I
also
think that paragraph tags are a more logical choice, it is quite
different
than many other mail clients. For example, both Apple's Mail.app and Thunderbird do line breaks by default, not paragraphs. So if consistency between clients is important, the BR tag may be a better choice.
I think consistency between clients is a better choice. Just my opinion.
Jeff _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/users/
Sure, that's fair. Was just providing the option of manipulating the <p> tag without having to change to <br>. If BRs are the preferred method, then by all means. Should this not be the default configuration then instead of the non-consistant way?
// Andrés
-----Original Message----- From: Arne Berglund [mailto:aberglund@lesd.k12.or.us] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:50 PM To: Andres Sulleiro Cc: Roundcube Users List Subject: RE: [RCU] Line Spacing Issue in the HTML Text Editor
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:42:38 -0700, Andres Sulleiro Andres.Sulleiro@razorfish.com wrote:
You can set the behavior of TinyMCE by editing program/js/editor.js as shown in the TinyMCE documentation here:
http://wiki.moxiecode.com/index.php/TinyMCE:Configuration/force_br_newlines
I do agree that paragraphs serve the purpose better. Is there a CSS that TinyMCE uses to compose emails? Perhaps it would be better to alter the
CSS
to whatever desired paragraph spacing rather than switch to BR tags.
My two cents.
// Andrés
I didn't say it was a good idea, just that it could be done. While I also think that paragraph tags are a more logical choice, it is quite different than many other mail clients. For example, both Apple's Mail.app and Thunderbird do line breaks by default, not paragraphs. So if consistency between clients is important, the BR tag may be a better choice.
-- Arne Berglund System Administrator, Internet Services Lane Education Service District Eugene, OR ______________ _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/users/
-----Original Message----- From: Arne Berglund [mailto:aberglund@lesd.k12.or.us] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:50 PM To: Andres Sulleiro Cc: Roundcube Users List Subject: RE: [RCU] Line Spacing Issue in the HTML Text Editor
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:42:38 -0700, Andres Sulleiro Andres.Sulleiro@razorfish.com wrote:
You can set the behavior of TinyMCE by editing program/js/editor.js as shown in the TinyMCE documentation here:
http://wiki.moxiecode.com/index.php/TinyMCE:Configuration/force_br_newlines
I do agree that paragraphs serve the purpose better. Is there a CSS
that
TinyMCE uses to compose emails? Perhaps it would be better to alter the
CSS
to whatever desired paragraph spacing rather than switch to BR tags.
My two cents.
// Andrés
I didn't say it was a good idea, just that it could be done. While I
also
think that paragraph tags are a more logical choice, it is quite
different
than many other mail clients. For example, both Apple's Mail.app and Thunderbird do line breaks by default, not paragraphs. So if consistency between clients is important, the BR tag may be a better choice.
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:51:56 -0700, Andres Sulleiro Andres.Sulleiro@razorfish.com wrote:
Sure, that's fair. Was just providing the option of manipulating the <p> tag without having to change to <br>. If BRs are the preferred method,
then
by all means. Should this not be the default configuration then instead
of
the non-consistant way?
// Andrés
In the opinion of myself and my organization, consistency trumps the other considerations. We prefer the BR tag here.
-- Arne Berglund System Administrator, Internet Services Lane Education Service District Eugene, OR ______________ _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/users/
----- Original Message ----
In the opinion of myself and my organization, consistency trumps the other considerations. We prefer the BR tag here.
Personally I like and am used to the way that Thunderbird does it, so this change works great for me. I do believe in having easy choices and variety which is why it would be nice to have this as a pull-down option/selection on the editor page or in the preferences. Obviously there are strong cases why to have it either way and this would allow anyone to do whichever they want. But for now at least there is a way to adjust it.
Keith
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