On Friday 31 August 2007 06:29:52 Alex Walker wrote:

I still use procmail for this. On the server that's running roundcube, I put the following in my .procmailrc - I use bogofilter, with 3 states, so I filter into 2 different places as you can see...

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• ^X-Bogosity: Spam

spam/verified

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• ^X-Bogosity: Unsure

spam/unsure

Hope that helps

Alex

I'm using procmail too, in my machine to move mails marked as spam. But the problem I have, is that all the users of the server want a kind of spam filter in Roundcube, because they want to redirect the spam marked mails to another folder than inbox, and they are simple users so they can't use procmail. May be exists some implementation of filters in roundcube? :D I'm using postfix+spamassassin+amavis-new. Do you know some scheme to solve this problem?

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:31:06 -0800, Christine Kluka

cvkluka@cerebellum.biz wrote:

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Hi,

I have Roundcube Version 0.1-rc1, with a junk mail folder. How do I filter junk mail (to deliver junk mail to the junk mail folder instead of my inbox)? My junk mail is usually marked Spam by MailScanner, and there

are

...

other criteria I could apply to filter other messages if I knew what to configure.

I've used procmail in the past to make sure junk mail was delivered to a mail folder other than my inbox, but only with POP3 clients. Recommendations?

Thanks in advance

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On 31-Aug-2007, at 11:38, Luciano M. Guasco wrote:

I'm using procmail too, in my machine to move mails marked as spam.
But the problem I have, is that all the users of the server want a kind of
spam filter in Roundcube, because they want to redirect the spam marked
mails to another folder than inbox, and they are simple users so they can't use procmail.

I use spamassassin on my server and a /etc/procmailrc (this runs for
all users)

{ Lots of stuff up here }

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• ! ? test -f $HOME/.procmailrc

{ LOG="User has no procmailrc LOGNAME=$LOGNAME@$HOST HOME=$HOME$NL" :0 fw | /usr/local/bin/spamc -u $LOGNAME

DROPPRIVS=YES :0 * ^X-Spam-Status:(.*<)?Yes { # mbox delivery, mark as read: :0 fw | formail -I "Status: RO"

   :0: $HOME/lock.$PID
   * ? test -f $HOME/Mail/SPAM
   $HOME/Mail/SPAM
}

:0:
$DEFAULT

} LOG="User $LOGNAME@$HOST has a .procmailrc, processing...$NL"

Spam gets moved to SPAM and everything else goes to $DEFAULT

Sorry, pressed the Send button before I was finished...I was using spamassassin earlier and filtered all mail thru it in a global procmailrc, with additional recipes in my $HOME folder; this time I'm using MailScanner which tags the mail as spam or disabled, but /etc/procmailrc is empty. But the issue I think is the ownership of the mail directory, as stated in my last email.

TIA for any help

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:29:52 +0100, Alex Walker alex@x3ja.co.uk wrote:

I still use procmail for this. On the server that's running roundcube, I put the following in my .procmailrc - I use bogofilter, with 3 states, so I filter into 2 different places as you can see...

:0:

• ^X-Bogosity: Spam

spam/verified

:0:

• ^X-Bogosity: Unsure

spam/unsure

Hope that helps

Alex

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:31:06 -0800, Christine Kluka cvkluka@cerebellum.biz wrote:

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Hi,

I have Roundcube Version 0.1-rc1, with a junk mail folder. How do I filter junk mail (to deliver junk mail to the junk mail folder instead of my inbox)? My junk mail is usually marked Spam by MailScanner, and there

are

...

other criteria I could apply to filter other messages if I knew what to configure.

I've used procmail in the past to make sure junk mail was delivered to a mail folder other than my inbox, but only with POP3 clients. Recommendations?

Thanks in advance

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On 1-Sep-2007, at 15:23, Christine Kluka wrote:

I created a .procmail file in my home directory with the usual
parameters and the recipes in the $HOME/procmail folder, which I've done
before. This time it doesn't work

It didn't work before either. The file is .procmailrc.

I have no idea what $HOME/procmail might be or how your '.procmail'
is setup, but there is certainly nothing special about that folder.

This has been frustrating so once again I jumped the gun on sending my last mail - I'm quite sure that cyrus imap will not work unless cyrus owns the user files; correct me if I'm wrong about that. But that being the case, what junk mail filter works with it? Are there roundcube mail users out there running cyrus imap?

On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 17:54:33 -0600, Lewis Butler lbutler+roundcube@covisp.net wrote:

On 1-Sep-2007, at 15:23, Christine Kluka wrote:

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Now my mail folder is /var/spool/imap/c/user/cvkluka, owned by cyrus/mail; if I chown it to UID/GID cvkluka/cvkluka as recommended by procmail, all mail disappears from my Roundcube mail directories when I log on. In both cases, I've used spamassassin:

This, however, is another issue. You cannot put a .procmailrc in your home directory and expect the user cyrus to process it. Since you do not, in point of fact, own your email in this configuration you cannot run procmail.

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I'm using procmail too, in my machine to move mails marked as spam.
But the problem I have, is that all the users of the server want a kind of
spam filter in Roundcube, because they want to redirect the spam marked
mails to another folder than inbox, and they are simple users so they can't use procmail. May be exists some implementation of filters in
roundcube? :D I'm using postfix+spamassassin+amavis-new. Do you know some scheme
to solve this problem?

Use DSPAM, it is more accurate than SpamAssassin for us. The DSPAM
binary replaces procmail as the MDA, and it can be configured to move
messages marked as spam to a separate user directory rather than a
quarantine.

Pros: Each user trains the filter as they desire, so one user's opinion of
what is spam doesn't conflict with another user's opinion. No rules to update Very accurate, keeps up with changes in spam techniques

Cons: Processor and database intensive, you may need bigger hardware to
handle it. User's are lazy and don't want to train the filter The filter needs a baseline of 1500 messages to start making good
decisions

IMHO, the MUA isn't the place for filtering. We also use greylisting before the message gets to DSPAM.

Charles Dostale System Admin - Silver Oaks Communications http://www.silveroaks.com/ 824 17th Street, Moline IL 61265

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I have recently implemented smartsieve, though have not gotten it to integrate directly w/roundcube. It is a web-based interface to sieve. We also use spamassassin, and I have taken a brute-force approach to installing sieve filters for each user. Kinda ugly initially, but it works. My account provisioning script now adds this filter for all new accounts.

If anyone knows how to set sieve up to do a top-level global filter I'd sure like to know about it.

http://smartsieve.sourceforge.net/

On 9/4/07, Christine Kluka cvkluka@cerebellum.biz wrote:

I've been reading about sieve, a server-side mail filter for imap, which would help a lot. But I can't find anything on how to configure it with roundcube - only with squirrelmail and other clients. Has anyone tried it with roundcube? Any advice on how to make it work?

On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:53:13 -0500, chasd chasd@silveroaks.com wrote:

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I'm using procmail too, in my machine to move mails marked as spam. But the problem I have, is that all the users of the server want a kind of spam filter in Roundcube, because they want to redirect the spam marked mails to another folder than inbox, and they are simple users so they can't use procmail. May be exists some implementation of filters in roundcube? :D I'm using postfix+spamassassin+amavis-new. Do you know some scheme to solve this problem?

Use DSPAM, it is more accurate than SpamAssassin for us. The DSPAM binary replaces procmail as the MDA, and it can be configured to move messages marked as spam to a separate user directory rather than a quarantine.

Pros: Each user trains the filter as they desire, so one user's opinion of what is spam doesn't conflict with another user's opinion. No rules to update Very accurate, keeps up with changes in spam techniques

Cons: Processor and database intensive, you may need bigger hardware to handle it. User's are lazy and don't want to train the filter The filter needs a baseline of 1500 messages to start making good decisions

IMHO, the MUA isn't the place for filtering. We also use greylisting before the message gets to DSPAM.

Charles Dostale System Admin - Silver Oaks Communications http://www.silveroaks.com/ 824 17th Street, Moline IL 61265

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