Dev September 2007

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Shared folders (Feature request #1403507)
by Robin Elfrink 25 Sep '07

25 Sep '07

Hi, Is anybody working on support for shared folders? If not I volunteer to try and implement them. It doesn't seem too hard, just a lot of work. Especially a number of changes in the IlohaMail IMAP library. Robin PS. IlohaMail development seems to be dead, no CVS commits for over 2 years. Does anybody have more info about that? _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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control-click bug in IE7
by Joel Clermont 24 Sep '07

24 Sep '07

I am cutting and pasting the reply I got from Microsoft today. They definitely acknowledge it as a bug, but they seem to be implying it is something that they may or may not fix. Please read over his reply and give me any direction you can on how to proceed. I already replied and told him that neither "workaround" he lists is valid for us. Based on previous discussions, it sounds like roundcube intends to maintain a real <a> tag pointing to a real URL. Hi Joel, The DIV case is really a different scenario. It does not have any special meaning when Ctrl + Click so that should be consistent with what you see in IE6. IE7 added a special case for Anchor tag handling when Ctrl + Click. I am currently working on this issue with my escalation engineer, Shahinur. You raise a valid point about the onclick event should be fired for Ctrl + Click regardless of which window the navigation happens in. At this point this does look like a bug in IE7. I don’t see any good workaround for this problem. There are a few ideas that that you may have already knew or touched on at some point: 1) Try avoid using the Anchor tag, you can use other elements like DIV (you already knew) or SPAN tag and still mimic the Anchor tag appearance. Some thing like this: <span style="text-decoration: underline; cursor:hand; color:blue" onclick="aFunction()" > click this "link" </span>. 2) It seems that if the Anchor tag does not have a valid href URL attribute. If the href attribute is set to “” (empty string) or “#” or even non-existant then things are working as expected. Below is an example of the href missing: If these workarounds do not work for you, we can request a hotfix from the product team. Keep in mind that there is always a chance that the hotfix request can be rejected. If you diecide to pursue this route, I would need to have a Business Impact statement from you addressing the following questions. Once I have the Business Impact Statement, I can file a formal hotfix request to the product team: 1. Business Impact - How does this bug affect your business - Why are current workarounds, if any, unacceptable 2. Financial Impact (include how it was calculated) - What is the financial impact of the bug - What is the financial impact of the best workaround, if any 3. Problem's frequency and probability? 4. Number of companies impacted 5. Number of corporate desktops and servers impacted 6. Number of consumer desktops (ie. home users) impacted 7. What IE platform is the hot fix needed? - IE 6.0 sp2 on XP SP2 - IE 6.0 on Windows 2003 Server - IE 6.0 on Windows 2003 Server SP1 - IE 7.0 on Vista - IE 7.0 on XP SP2 - IE 7.0 on Windows 2003 Server SP1 9. What type of hot fix package do you need? QFE – This package takes about 1-2 months to release and has a strict acceptance criteria. It is only distributed to customers by contacting Microsoft Support referencing a KB article. It is also redistributable only within a corporation (but not to the corporation’s customers). The fix is usually enabled by setting a specific registry key on the machine. GDR – This package takes about 3-6 months to release and is subjected to more testing and an even higher acceptance criteria. It is distributed to customers by downloading it from a public Microsoft link. This package is normally not available if a QFE meets your needs. 8. What languages (English, Chineses,...) are needed? Joel Clermont joel(a)orionweb.net 262-377-9930 _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Re: [RCD] control-click bug in IE7
by Joel Clermont 23 Sep '07

23 Sep '07

You may not need to after all. Someone proposed a workaround that actually works! But if you wanted to you can call Microsoft and open a formal support ticket like I did. I suppose the more complaints they get, the better. Joel Clermont joel(a)orionweb.net 262-377-9930 On Sep 23, 2007, at 5:37 PM, Martin Kealey wrote: > We have 10^N (N>5) customers depending on RoundCube, so this is a > real issue for us. > > Where do we sign up to complain? > > -Martin > -- > Martin D Kealey, ihüg engineering > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Joel Clermont [mailto:joel@orionweb.net] >> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 12:45 AM >> To: Michael Büker >> Cc: dev(a)lists.roundcube.net >> Subject: Re: [RCD] control-click bug in IE7 >> >> I had a long talk with this support rep on the phone the >> other day. He said that a number of people (though he >> wouldn't tell me how many) have filed a bug notice on this >> very issue. Internally, the bug is graded as "fix in next >> release", which means IE 8. That is probably at least 3 years >> off, and likely longer. He said that no one has yet opened a >> formal support ticket on this issue. We are the first. It's a >> shame we have to play their game, but the only way to get >> your bug's priority bumped is to make a business impact case. >> Then again, there is no guarantee that they will escalate the >> bug even with this document. And even if they do escalate it, >> the best case time frame for a generally deployed fix is 3 - >> 6 months. Despite this, I think it is still worth submitting >> the document and getting the process started. >> >> In the meantime, I wanted to propose an alternate solution. >> As I understand it, making the subject text an <A> tag was to >> accommodate a small subset of users. Could we possibly create >> a new setting in the personal settings area where the >> individual user could toggle whether they want this as an <A> >> tag or not? Ideally, the server admin could set a default >> value and then let users override it. I think this might be >> the best short term solution until MS fixes the real bug, if >> they ever do. >> >> What does everyone think? Also, could someone take a few >> minutes and explain to me again the full reason for the <A> >> tag with a real href? Was it just accessibility reasons? >> >> Joel Clermont >> joel(a)orionweb.net <mailto:joel@orionweb.net> >> 262-377-9930 >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 22, 2007, at 5:50 AM, Michael Büker wrote: >> >> >> On Friday 21 September 2007, Joel Clermont wrote: >> >> If these workarounds do not work for you, we >> can request a hotfix >> from the product team. Keep in mind that there >> is always a chance >> that the hotfix request can be rejected. If >> you diecide to pursue >> this route, I would need to have a Business >> Impact statement from you >> addressing the following questions. Once I >> have the Business Impact >> Statement, I can file a formal hotfix request >> to the product team: >> >> <we'll only fix this if you are important enough> >> >> >> I can't believe this! You've proven to them it's a >> nonstandard behaviour, it >> breaks actions that are expected, they even admitted >> it's a _bug_, and they >> tell you to get down on your knees and beg so they >> _might_ fix it, but only >> if they deem you important enough, _and_ there's enough >> money involved! >> >> How much would I like to put a fat notice on the >> roundcube homepage >> saying "IE7 broken!", we don't support it period. >> >> What a bunch of arrogant, superbureaocratic, incapable assholes! >> >> Sorry, I had to let this steam off ;) >> >> ~Mik >> >> -- >> Heisenberg gets stopped by a cop for speeding. >> "Do you have any idea how fast you were going?", asks the cop. >> "No. But I know exactly where I am!" >> _______________________________________________ >> List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Fix for #1484187: Preview pane height incorrect in Safari & Konquerer
by Robin Elfrink 21 Sep '07

21 Sep '07

Hi, I finally found a fix for #1484187. Instead of the currently used dynamic height and width settings, it simpy positions absolutely inside the containing (and also absolutely positioned) div. I may look hackish, and maybe it is, but this patch makes another hack unneeded :) Tested in the following browsers: - Firefox 2.0.0.7 on Window XP - Internet Explorer 6 on Linux (IEs4Linux project) - Internet Explorer 7 on Windows XP - Konqueror 3.5.6 on Linux (the bottom border of the containing div disappeared...) - Opera 9.02 on Windows XP - Safari 2.0.4 on Mac OS X - Safari 3.0.3 on Windows XP If there are no problems in any other (major) browsers on other (major) platforms I'll commit this in the weekend. Robin --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- The following attachments have been detached and are available for viewing. http://detached.gigo.com/rc/cn/EAeQ7c+x/_1484187.20070921161.patch Only click these links if you trust the sender, as well as this message. --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Can't send emails - "directly called /usr/sbin/exim instead of /usr/sbin/sendmail"
by Søren Aggeboe 20 Sep '07

20 Sep '07

Hi, since I updated to the latest SVN version (800) I can't send emails. Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Gid 32299 is not permitted to relay mail, or has directly called /usr/sbin/exim instead of /usr/sbin/sendmail. ?? Regards /Søren _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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multi select question
by Joel Clermont 20 Sep '07

20 Sep '07

I run a small web hosting business and we just switched from SquirrelMail to RoundCube. Overall, our clients love it. The polished interface is so nice coming from the previous app. The biggest problem people moan about is multi-select. It is not intuitive to use a key modifier like Shift or Control to select multiple messages. In addition, in IE7 when you control-click it opens the message in another tab, so if you control-click 10 messages to delete them, you now also have 10 tabs to close. Is there something I am missing on this problem? Is there a setting where I can enable an old school checkbox column for people to use in multi-select? Joel Clermont joel(a)orionweb.net 262-377-9930 _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Fwd: Problem with http://roundcube.tobix.org/
by Brett Patterson 19 Sep '07

19 Sep '07

Forgot to "reply to all"..... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Brett Patterson <brett1434(a)gmail.com> Date: Sep 19, 2007 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [RCD] Problem with http://roundcube.tobix.org/ To: Thomas Bruederli <roundcube(a)gmail.com> Not to be a pain.... but how can you have a September 30, 2007 build already? I mean, I know there's a time difference, but two weeks ahead of time :) I'd also like to point out that tobix.org puts up nightly builds in the literal sense. Instead of just having nighlty builds that are only published if things are modified (like nightly.roundcube.net) he does a build every night no matter what. So what some people find to be "the latest" is really 3 weeks ago stuff. Is there any code behind the nightly.roundcube.net stuff? If there is, I'd be willing to take a look at it and see if I can't get some information up there so there's something like: Latest Nightly Build: September, 13, 2007 Revision 675 Notes on Build: This is where the commit notes would be displayed Previous Builds: September 10, 2007 Revision 674 July 31, 2007 Revision 67x I'm not 100% sure how this would work out, but something like that would be better. Do it for both the devel-vnext and trunk builds. That way there's no reason to have 30 different nightlies, we could just set up rsynced mirrors (so that roundcube.tobix.org, nightly.roundcubeforum.net both use rsync to grab the info from nightly.roundcube.net and mirror it). Just a suggestion. ~Brett On 9/19/07, Thomas Bruederli <roundcube(a)gmail.com > wrote: > > 2007/9/19, Julien Wadin <julien(a)wadin.be >: > > Thomas Bruederli a écrit : > > > Hi Julien, > > > > > > If you need help with a RoundCube installation, then the users mailing > > > list is the one to contact. This list is reserved to discuss the > > > ongoing development. Please read the instructions > > > (http://lists.roundcube.net/) before posting! > > > > > > > Hi Thomas, > > This website is not mine > > It containts archives with all svn versions, so he's very useful to > > always have the latstet dev version > > My message was destinated to the maintener of this website, if present > here. > > Well, I did not remember this. Some more details than "Can anyone fix > it" would have been helpful. Nevertheless this is still the wrong > place to ask. When looking for the owner of that server > whois > tobix.org might help. > > But after searching the wiki you finally pointed me to some outdated > content. You can download nightly SVN builds from > http://nightly.roundcube.net. > > ~Thomas > _______________________________________________ > List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/ > -- ~ Brett Patterson -- ~ Brett Patterson _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Problem with http://roundcube.tobix.org/
by Julien Wadin 19 Sep '07

19 Sep '07

Hi all, http://roundcube.tobix.org/ says Forbidden. Can anyone fix it ? Thanks -- Wadin Julien Tel : +32 (0) 475 632 168 Web : http://blog.julienwadin.be/ Simplifiez vous Postfix : http://postfixwinadmin.jwhosting.eu _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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status on the forums?
by kyle 18 Sep '07

18 Sep '07

Anyone know when the forums will be back up? Thanks. -- kyle http://ronpaul2008.com - official website _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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incorporating "change password" into roundcube
by kyle 18 Sep '07

18 Sep '07

There is a post on the forums that told how to add "change password" functionality into RoundCube. I can no longer access the forums and am hoping someone can give me (or point me to) some instructions on how to add this functionality. I had this working, but when I updated, the changes obviously went away and I couldn't figure out how to duplicate it. Thanks. -- kyle http://ronpaul2008.com _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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