When checking for new messages RoundCube displays a loading message. This feedback is useful when the user has click the "Check for new message" button, but it is also displayed when RoundCube automatically checks for new mail. I think RoundCube should only display the message when the user has manually initiated a check.
What do others think about this behavior?
I've created a feature request, and submitted a patch: http://trac.roundcube.net/ticket/1485276
thanks -kris
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On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Kris Steinhoff steinhof@umich.edu wrote:
When checking for new messages RoundCube displays a loading message. This feedback is useful when the user has click the "Check for new message" button, but it is also displayed when RoundCube automatically checks for new mail. I think RoundCube should only display the message when the user has manually initiated a check.
What do others think about this behavior?
I've created a feature request, and submitted a patch: http://trac.roundcube.net/ticket/1485276
Do you find it annoying? I am curious. Personally, I don't mind seeing that at all. I see something is going on. Maybe the "message" could be more subtle, e.g. only in the browser's status bar, etc..
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On Aug 15, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Kris Steinhoff wrote:
When checking for new messages RoundCube displays a loading
message. This feedback is useful when the user has click the "Check for new message" button, but it is also displayed when RoundCube automatically
checks for new mail. I think RoundCube should only display the message when
the user has manually initiated a check.What do others think about this behavior?
I prefer to see the notification.
Since JavaScript isn't threaded well in most browsers, it is good to
know the check is in progress so I shouldn't be doing any other
operations until the notification goes away.
Personally, I don't ever use automated mail checking so this isn't an
issue for me.
One of the benefits of e-mail is that you are in control of your time.
I only check e-mail when I am at a point in my tasks that it makes
sense to check for messages.
Charles Dostale System Admin - Silver Oaks Communications http://www.silveroaks.com/ 824 17th Street, Moline IL 61265
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:30:51 -0400, Kris Steinhoff steinhof@umich.edu wrote:
When checking for new messages RoundCube displays a loading message. This feedback is useful when the user has click the "Check for new message" button, but it is also displayed when RoundCube automatically checks for new mail. I think RoundCube should only display the message when the user has manually initiated a check.
What do others think about this behavior?
I much prefer the existing behavior. I have it set to check for new messages automatically, but it's nice to see some sort of visual confirmation of that fact. I'd vote for leaving it just as it is.
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Kris Steinhoff wrote:
When checking for new messages RoundCube displays a loading message. This feedback is useful when the user has click the "Check for new message" button, but it is also displayed when RoundCube automatically checks for new mail. I think RoundCube should only display the message when the user has manually initiated a check.
What do others think about this behavior?
This sounds like the perfect candidate for a user-configurable behavior, if people feel that strongly on both sides. :-) _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:51:14 -0400, till klimpong@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Kris Steinhoff steinhof@umich.edu
wrote:
When checking for new messages RoundCube displays a loading message.
This
feedback is useful when the user has click the "Check for new message" button, but it is also displayed when RoundCube automatically checks for new mail. I think RoundCube should only display the message when the
user
has manually initiated a check.
What do others think about this behavior?
I've created a feature request, and submitted a patch: http://trac.roundcube.net/ticket/1485276
Do you find it annoying? I am curious. Personally, I don't mind seeing that at all. I see something is going on. Maybe the "message" could be more subtle, e.g. only in the browser's status bar, etc..
Hi Till,
I find it distracting. When dealing with email, or doing something else, with my browser in the background, seeing the loading message flash up draws my attention away from what I'm working on, when RoundCube doesn't really need my attention.
Do other email clients so prominently indicate that they're (automatically) checking for mail? I like the idea of doing something more subtle, but I think I still want to be able to turn it off completely.
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:57:00 -0400, Jim Pingle lists@pingle.org wrote:
Kris Steinhoff wrote:
When checking for new messages RoundCube displays a loading message. This feedback is useful when the user has click the "Check for new
message"
button, but it is also displayed when RoundCube automatically checks for new mail. I think RoundCube should only display the message when the user has manually initiated a check.
What do others think about this behavior?
This sounds like the perfect candidate for a user-configurable behavior, if people feel that strongly on both sides. :-)
Hi Jim,
You're right, that's why I asked.
When I have some time, I'll rewrite my patch to make it a user-configurable option (unless someone beats me to it).
best -kris _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Kris Steinhoff steinhof@umich.edu wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:57:00 -0400, Jim Pingle lists@pingle.org wrote:
Kris Steinhoff wrote:
When checking for new messages RoundCube displays a loading message. This feedback is useful when the user has click the "Check for new
message"
button, but it is also displayed when RoundCube automatically checks for new mail. I think RoundCube should only display the message when the user has manually initiated a check.
What do others think about this behavior?
This sounds like the perfect candidate for a user-configurable behavior, if people feel that strongly on both sides. :-)
Hi Jim,
You're right, that's why I asked.
When I have some time, I'll rewrite my patch to make it a user-configurable option (unless someone beats me to it).
OK, everyone is entitled to their opinion. :))
A word of advice though, if your productivity is at stake, only open email every couple of hours. That's what I try and it worked very well. ;) In any way, feel free to submit a patch when you're ready.
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Kris Steinhoff wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:57:00 -0400, Jim Pingle lists@pingle.org wrote:
Kris Steinhoff wrote:
When checking for new messages RoundCube displays a loading message. This feedback is useful when the user has click the "Check for new
message"
button, but it is also displayed when RoundCube automatically checks for new mail. I think RoundCube should only display the message when the user has manually initiated a check.
What do others think about this behavior?
This sounds like the perfect candidate for a user-configurable behavior, if people feel that strongly on both sides. :-)
Hi Jim,
You're right, that's why I asked.
When I have some time, I'll rewrite my patch to make it a user-configurable option (unless someone beats me to it).
If we can't find a conclusion then the default action is the add a user-configurable option. In general this isn't a bad thing but I'm a bit afraid of bloating the prefs panel which will then confuse the average user. Before adding an option and naming it, we should carefully think about these questions
- does the user understand what he/she is about to set here?
- would he/she mind if this option was not here?
- what preset/default would make sense?
The worst case is to have 280 options to set where 99% of the users will (naturally) capitulate and then leave them as set by default. Now we're back to (almost) no configuration but useful defaults.
~Thomas _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/
Thomas Bruederli wrote:
Kris Steinhoff wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:57:00 -0400, Jim Pingle lists@pingle.org wrote:
Kris Steinhoff wrote:
When checking for new messages RoundCube displays a loading message. This feedback is useful when the user has click the "Check for new
message"
button, but it is also displayed when RoundCube automatically checks for new mail. I think RoundCube should only display the message when the user has manually initiated a check.
What do others think about this behavior?
This sounds like the perfect candidate for a user-configurable behavior, if people feel that strongly on both sides. :-)
Hi Jim,
You're right, that's why I asked.
When I have some time, I'll rewrite my patch to make it a user-configurable option (unless someone beats me to it).
If we can't find a conclusion then the default action is the add a user-configurable option. In general this isn't a bad thing but I'm a bit afraid of bloating the prefs panel which will then confuse the average user. Before adding an option and naming it, we should carefully think about these questions
- does the user understand what he/she is about to set here?
- would he/she mind if this option was not here?
- what preset/default would make sense?
The worst case is to have 280 options to set where 99% of the users will (naturally) capitulate and then leave them as set by default. Now we're back to (almost) no configuration but useful defaults.
I totally agree that the prefs panel should not be cluttered. Before long it could be several pages full of random options. However there is a normal convention for such things: The "advanced" button/screen. It's a nice place to hide a long list of obscure options that doesn't have to be afraid of looking intimidating.
Keep the basic prefs on the main screen, and tuck the more obscure choices away under some kind of "Advanced" choice and it should keep both sides happy. Your average user won't be inclined to poke around in there, and your power users will likely appreciate some extra choices and configurable behaviors.
Is that something that could be done without too much extra effort?
Jim _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/
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