Hi,
Now I'm sure this is a 'feature', but I'm trying to understand the rationale behind it.
If I view my e-mails in RCW, then move some of those messages into another folder using a *different application*, the messages still appear in the old place in RCW, but greyed out. Clicking on them allows me to view the correct e-mail no matter where it has been moved.
My question is, is there anyway to turn that off? Things get very messy if you move things back and forth, you can get multiple ghosts of the same e-mail!!
Thanks, Richard
Those are not ghosts; but deleted emails. You should purge your mailbox after moving; using either 'the other client' or RoundCube. This is no bug.
Richard Green wrote:
Hi,
Now I'm sure this is a 'feature', but I'm trying to understand the rationale behind it.
If I view my e-mails in RCW, then move some of those messages into another folder using a *different application*, the messages still appear in the old place in RCW, but greyed out. Clicking on them allows me to view the correct e-mail no matter where it has been moved.
My question is, is there anyway to turn that off? Things get very messy if you move things back and forth, you can get multiple ghosts of the same e-mail!!
Thanks, Richard
I never said it was a bug.
Why should I have to purge just because I move an e-mail? This is just simple moving of e-mails, nothing was deleted. Why when I move things in RCW does it work ok, but not in Thunderbird?
Incidentally, this does not happen in an old version of RCW that I am using, so it must be something new. All I'm asking is can I turn it off?
Sjon wrote:
Those are not ghosts; but deleted emails. You should purge your mailbox after moving; using either 'the other client' or RoundCube. This is no bug.
Richard Green wrote:
Hi,
Now I'm sure this is a 'feature', but I'm trying to understand the rationale behind it.
If I view my e-mails in RCW, then move some of those messages into another folder using a *different application*, the messages still appear in the old place in RCW, but greyed out. Clicking on them allows me to view the correct e-mail no matter where it has been moved.
My question is, is there anyway to turn that off? Things get very messy if you move things back and forth, you can get multiple ghosts of the same e-mail!!
Thanks, Richard
To solve this, a nice user option would be to turn on/off "compact folder on load" or compact folder on refresh". Actually, an option to compact all folders at login would suffice. Until then, manually compacting the folders is painless.
Ken
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:30:17 +0100, Sjon roundcube.net@spider007.net wrote:
Those are not ghosts; but deleted emails. You should purge your mailbox after moving; using either 'the other client' or RoundCube. This is no bug.
Richard Green wrote:
Hi,
Now I'm sure this is a 'feature', but I'm trying to understand the
rationale behind it.
If I view my e-mails in RCW, then move some of those messages into
another folder using a *different application*, the messages still appear in the old place in RCW, but greyed out. Clicking on them allows me to view the correct e-mail no matter where it has been moved.
My question is, is there anyway to turn that off? Things get very messy
if you move things back and forth, you can get multiple ghosts of the same e-mail!!
Thanks, Richard
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006, Richard Green wrote:
Why should I have to purge just because I move an e-mail? This is just simple moving of e-mails, nothing was deleted. Why when I move things in RCW does it work ok, but not in Thunderbird?
Are the mails marked as deleted in thunderbird? Pine, my client,
marks the original email as deleted and puts a new copy in the other folder. So, I would imagine roundcube would do the same thing in my case too. I haven't had much luck with having two imap clients accessing the same folder anyway, ie. whenever I do purge from either client, the other client gets confused.
Just set
$rcmail_config['skip_deleted'] = TRUE;
in your config/main.inc.php
On Mar 25, 2006, at 2:40 AM, Richard Green wrote:
Hi,
Now I'm sure this is a 'feature', but I'm trying to understand the
rationale behind it.If I view my e-mails in RCW, then move some of those messages into
another folder using a *different application*, the messages still
appear in the old place in RCW, but greyed out. Clicking on them
allows me to view the correct e-mail no matter where it has been
moved.My question is, is there anyway to turn that off? Things get very
messy if you move things back and forth, you can get multiple
ghosts of the same e-mail!!Thanks, Richard
-- Mark Edwards
Most Mail clients don't send the EXPUNGE command after moving a message. The original message will be marked as "deleted" and if configured, the mails will be finally removed when quitting the mail client.
As mentioned by Mark Edwards, this is a new "feature" in RoundCube which can be controlled by the 'skip_deleted' parameter. The reason of this new behavior are performance issues. To get the message count of only "undeleted" mails take much longer because RC has to perform a SEARCH operation. By default, the deleted messages are counted and displayed as well but grayed out.
Please note that enabling 'skip_deleted' could make RoundCube a bit slower, especially with large mailboxes. You can also click on "compact" in order to make the grayed messages disappear.
Regards, Thomas
Richard Green wrote:
I never said it was a bug.
Why should I have to purge just because I move an e-mail? This is just simple moving of e-mails, nothing was deleted. Why when I move things in RCW does it work ok, but not in Thunderbird?
Incidentally, this does not happen in an old version of RCW that I am using, so it must be something new. All I'm asking is can I turn it off?
Sjon wrote:
Those are not ghosts; but deleted emails. You should purge your mailbox after moving; using either 'the other client' or RoundCube. This is no bug.
Richard Green wrote:
Hi,
Now I'm sure this is a 'feature', but I'm trying to understand the rationale behind it.
If I view my e-mails in RCW, then move some of those messages into another folder using a *different application*, the messages still appear in the old place in RCW, but greyed out. Clicking on them allows me to view the correct e-mail no matter where it has been moved.
My question is, is there anyway to turn that off? Things get very messy if you move things back and forth, you can get multiple ghosts of the same e-mail!!
Thanks, Richard
Is there any way that if I set 'skip_deleted' to true that the "Compact" option no longer shows up?
I figure that if I have set it to not show those deleted messages, then there is really no need for the "Compact" button when set to true. (I may be wrong though. :-p )
Kevin L.
Thomas Bruederli wrote:
Most Mail clients don't send the EXPUNGE command after moving a message. The original message will be marked as "deleted" and if configured, the mails will be finally removed when quitting the mail client.
As mentioned by Mark Edwards, this is a new "feature" in RoundCube which can be controlled by the 'skip_deleted' parameter. The reason of this new behavior are performance issues. To get the message count of only "undeleted" mails take much longer because RC has to perform a SEARCH operation. By default, the deleted messages are counted and displayed as well but grayed out.
Please note that enabling 'skip_deleted' could make RoundCube a bit slower, especially with large mailboxes. You can also click on "compact" in order to make the grayed messages disappear.
Regards, Thomas
Richard Green wrote:
I never said it was a bug.
Why should I have to purge just because I move an e-mail? This is just simple moving of e-mails, nothing was deleted. Why when I move things in RCW does it work ok, but not in Thunderbird?
Incidentally, this does not happen in an old version of RCW that I am using, so it must be something new. All I'm asking is can I turn it off?
Sjon wrote:
Those are not ghosts; but deleted emails. You should purge your mailbox after moving; using either 'the other client' or RoundCube. This is no bug.
Richard Green wrote:
Hi,
Now I'm sure this is a 'feature', but I'm trying to understand the rationale behind it.
If I view my e-mails in RCW, then move some of those messages into another folder using a *different application*, the messages still appear in the old place in RCW, but greyed out. Clicking on them allows me to view the correct e-mail no matter where it has been moved.
My question is, is there anyway to turn that off? Things get very messy if you move things back and forth, you can get multiple ghosts of the same e-mail!!
Thanks, Richard