After last update in Larry we have groups of buttons in toolbar. The idea behind this change was "to place the toolbar buttons above their context area and make a visual separation between their rather different realms".
I don't like it. This makes less space for additional buttons (from plugins). What's your opinion about this?
On Jul 5, 2012, at 11:05 AM, A.L.E.C wrote:
After last update in Larry we have groups of buttons in toolbar. The idea behind this change was "to place the toolbar buttons above their context area and make a visual separation between their rather different realms".
I don't like it. This makes less space for additional buttons (from plugins). What's your opinion about this?
I dont like it either. It doesnt seem to serve any real purpose. Why those 2 icons? I do like the icons on the left much better though.
This does bring me to another issue. Wouldnt it be possible to actually make the whole site have a min-width, so if you go below that width, you get a scrollbar? Right now (in default and larry skin) rc pretty much becomes useless below a certain width.
Cor
Cor Bosman wrote:
On Jul 5, 2012, at 11:05 AM, A.L.E.C wrote:
After last update in Larry we have groups of buttons in toolbar. The idea behind this change was "to place the toolbar buttons above their context area and make a visual separation between their rather different realms".
I don't like it. This makes less space for additional buttons (from plugins). What's your opinion about this?
I dont like it either. It doesnt seem to serve any real purpose. Why those 2 icons? I do like the icons on the left much better though.
Thanks for your feedback!
This does bring me to another issue. Wouldnt it be possible to actually make the whole site have a min-width, so if you go below that width, you get a scrollbar? Right now (in default and larry skin) rc pretty much becomes useless below a certain width.
Definitely worth a try. But would it really be more usable if there's a horizontal scrollbar?
~Thomas
This does bring me to another issue. Wouldnt it be possible to actually make the whole site have a min-width, so if you go below that width, you get a scrollbar? Right now (in default and larry skin) rc pretty much becomes useless below a certain width.
Definitely worth a try. But would it really be more usable if there's a horizontal scrollbar?
Dunno, but it's 1 complaint we get. users seem to interpret it as a bug that the icons become unreachable when the search form moves over it. Telling them the site needs a minimal width only gets us very little sympathy :) Showing that minimal width may be an option. It doesnt make the site more usable probably. I dont know which of the 2 is worse.
Cor
On 6/7/2012 14:42, Cor Bosman wrote:
This does bring me to another issue. Wouldnt it be possible to actually make the whole site have a min-width, so if you go below that width, you get a scrollbar? Right now (in default and larry skin) rc pretty much becomes useless below a certain width.
Definitely worth a try. But would it really be more usable if there's a horizontal scrollbar?
Dunno, but it's 1 complaint we get. users seem to interpret it as a bug that the icons become unreachable when the search form moves over it. Telling them the site needs a minimal width only gets us very little sympathy :) Showing that minimal width may be an option. It doesnt make the site more usable probably. I dont know which of the 2 is worse.
I would like to second that. From our experience, users would consider any such site/page/app just "broken", while the horizontal scrollbar is a clear, and familiar from other sites too, indication that *they* need to resize *their* window.
Regards, Panagiotis
Panagiotis Christias wrote:
On 6/7/2012 14:42, Cor Bosman wrote:
This does bring me to another issue. Wouldnt it be possible to actually make the whole site have a min-width, so if you go below that width, you get a scrollbar? Right now (in default and larry skin) rc pretty much becomes useless below a certain width.
Definitely worth a try. But would it really be more usable if there's a horizontal scrollbar?
Dunno, but it's 1 complaint we get. users seem to interpret it as a bug that the icons become unreachable when the search form moves over it. Telling them the site needs a minimal width only gets us very little sympathy :) Showing that minimal width may be an option. It doesnt make the site more usable probably. I dont know which of the 2 is worse.
I would like to second that. From our experience, users would consider any such site/page/app just "broken", while the horizontal scrollbar is a clear, and familiar from other sites too, indication that *they* need to resize *their* window.
You're 100% right and I totally agree.
But I'm currently struggling with a technical/css problem to bring in these horizontal scroll bars: The entire page layout is based on absolutely positioned boxes using top/bottom and left/right values to scale with the window size. The body has overflow:hidden to avoid the strange bounce effect in webkit browsers when using the scroll wheel. That effect is nice but totally unwanted here. And I didn't find a better solution to disable that bouncing other than with overflow:hidden.
Also spawning a div that does the scrolling wouldn't work because the absolutely positioned boxes still resize with the window and not the surrounding element. Sigh!
Any help on this would be much appreciated.
~Thomas
Panagiotis Christias wrote:
On 6/7/2012 14:42, Cor Bosman wrote:
This does bring me to another issue. Wouldnt it be possible to actually make the whole site have a min-width, so if you go below that width, you get a scrollbar? Right now (in default and larry skin) rc pretty much becomes useless below a certain width.
Definitely worth a try. But would it really be more usable if there's a horizontal scrollbar?
Dunno, but it's 1 complaint we get. users seem to interpret it as a bug that the icons become unreachable when the search form moves over it. Telling them the site needs a minimal width only gets us very little sympathy :) Showing that minimal width may be an option. It doesnt make the site more usable probably. I dont know which of the 2 is worse.
I would like to second that. From our experience, users would consider any such site/page/app just "broken", while the horizontal scrollbar is a clear, and familiar from other sites too, indication that *they* need to resize *their* window.
FYI: toolbar groups are gone and min width is forced in latest git master.
~Thomas
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