Hi,
are there any plans on making Roundcube usable on the Android browser?
It's currently nearly unusable - missing scroll bars, UI elements being positioned on top of each other, etc.
Patrick.
On 08.12.2010 08:40, Patrick Nagel wrote:
are there any plans on making Roundcube usable on the Android browser?
It's currently nearly unusable - missing scroll bars, UI elements being positioned on top of each other, etc.
I have no such plans because I have no Android. Maybe I could change my plans if someone will give me an Android-based device as a Christmas' gift ;)
2010.12.08 11:33, A.L.E.C rašė:
On 08.12.2010 08:40, Patrick Nagel wrote:
are there any plans on making Roundcube usable on the Android browser?
It's currently nearly unusable - missing scroll bars, UI elements being positioned on top of each other, etc.
I have no such plans because I have no Android. Maybe I could change my plans if someone will give me an Android-based device as a Christmas' gift ;)
Is it really about Android in particular? I would guess that RC doesn't look nice on any mobile device, regardless of its brand name.
Rimas
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On 08.12.2010 10:46, Rimas Kudelis wrote:
Is it really about Android in particular? I would guess that RC doesn't look nice on any mobile device, regardless of its brand name.
We have a few parts of a problem here:
- browser-related issues (html/css/js incompatibility)
- device-related issues (touch events, etc.)
- small-screen-size-related issues.
I think the 3rd is browser-independent and can be fixed only by a separate skin for small-screen devices.
2010.12.08 12:10, A.L.E.C rašė:
On 08.12.2010 10:46, Rimas Kudelis wrote:
Is it really about Android in particular? I would guess that RC doesn't look nice on any mobile device, regardless of its brand name.
We have a few parts of a problem here:
- browser-related issues (html/css/js incompatibility)
- device-related issues (touch events, etc.)
- small-screen-size-related issues.
I think the 3rd is browser-independent and can be fixed only by a separate skin for small-screen devices.
Or perhaps by writing a separate css for media=handheld for the same skin...
Regarding 1), this can probably be "solved" by setting some formal requirements for what has to be supported. 2) is a bit tougher, but maybe we don't need it that much? For us, a touch simply equals a click, I guess.
Rimas
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Hi all,
I'm new to this list and just wanted to say that I've been looking around for a way to have a roundcube skin for mobiles, and I've been looking at the jQuery mobile framework that's in Alpha release for the moment (http://jquerymobile.com/). I tought it could give you some ideas. I don't have a team to work on that subject for the moment but I'll probably give it a try. I'll give you some feedback as soon as I get some time to work on it.
Regards,
Xavier
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 12:41:44 +0200, Rimas Kudelis wrote:
2010.12.08 12:10, A.L.E.C
rašė:
On 08.12.2010 10:46, Rimas Kudelis wrote:
Is it really
about Android in particular? I would guess that RC doesn't
look nice
on any mobile device, regardless of its brand name.
We have a few
parts of a problem here:
- browser-related issues (html/css/js
incompatibility)
- device-related issues (touch events, etc.)
small-screen-size-related issues.
I think the 3rd is
browser-independent and can be fixed only by a
separate skin for
small-screen devices.
Or perhaps by writing a separate css for
media=handheld for the same skin...
Regarding 1), this can probably
be "solved" by setting some formal
requirements for what has to be
supported. 2) is a bit tougher, but
maybe we don't need it that much?
For us, a touch simply equals a click,
I guess.
Rimas
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http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/ [1]
BT/e5703ff5
Links:
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On Dec 8, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Rimas Kudelis wrote:
Is it really about Android in particular? I would guess that RC doesn't look nice on any mobile device, regardless of its brand name.
Actually RC does great on the iPhone and iPad. It renders normally and the lack of scroll bars isn't an issue since ios supports two finger scrolling (useful in message index and folder index views).
--ryan
Ryan Horrisberger | University of Wisconsin
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Hi,
We have a few parts of a problem here:
- browser-related issues (html/css/js incompatibility)
- device-related issues (touch events, etc.)
- small-screen-size-related issues.
I've already used Roundcube on my old phone - a Samsung Jet (something proprietary, no Android) - and I'm using it on my current Android phone, tried it with the chrome browser as well as with Firefox for Android. In all 3 situations I had basically the same problem: the double click that you need to open a mail. Double clicks seem to work really bad on mobile devices, Firefox does some quick zoom-in or -out on it.
I think the first problem is not so important, most mobile browsers are pretty good nowadays. So maybe we could have a theme (autoenabled on detected mobile device) that doesn't use double clicks and that has an full-page mail-view, so when mail is opened for reading the folder tree could be hidden.
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On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 10:33:00 +0100, "A.L.E.C" alec@alec.pl wrote:
On 08.12.2010 08:40, Patrick Nagel wrote:
are there any plans on making Roundcube usable on the Android browser?
It's currently nearly unusable - missing scroll bars, UI elements being positioned on top of each other, etc.
I have no such plans because I have no Android. Maybe I could change my plans if someone will give me an Android-based device as a Christmas' gift ;)
:) See also http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/emulator.html
Chris
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Hi Alec,
On 2010-12-08 09:33 UTC A.L.E.C wrote:
I have no such plans because I have no Android. Maybe I could change my plans if someone will give me an Android-based device as a Christmas' gift ;)
Sorry to disappoint, but my finances don't allow me to sponsor an Android device for you, currently. But I spent some time building a convenient emulator package, which you (and everyone else who is interested) may use:
Screenshot: http://p173.de/s/1291960996.png
It's a VirtualBox [1] Virtual Machine (packaged as OVF, so in theory it could also be used with VMWare or other virtualisation software, but I don't know if it actually works), which contains a full Linux Desktop (Linux Mint 10 [2]) and the Android SDK [3] emulator, which directly starts up when you 'power on' the virtual machine.
[1] http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads VirtualBox can be freely downloaded from the above URL, it runs on Linux, Windows, OS X and Solaris. [2] http://www.linuxmint.com/ (based on Debian/Ubuntu) [3] http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/emulator.html
Of course you could also just download the Android SDK, configure an AVD (Android Virtual Device) and start it in the emulator - but using my "virtual appliance" is probably faster / easier.
Download: http://p173.de/f/AndroidEmulator.zip [1.6 GB]
Instructions: 0) Make sure you have ~8 GB of free disk space and ~800 MB of free RAM
- Unzip AndroidEmulator.zip (and then delete the .zip file)
- In VirtualBox, Menu [File / Import Appliance...] click the [Choose...] button and select the AndroidEmulator.ovf file
- After the import you can delete the .ovf and .vmdk file
- Start up the virtual machine
- Start the Android Browser and enter the URL of your favourite Roundcube Webmail instance on the Internet
- Start improving the Roundcube Webmail UI :)
Patrick.
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Patrick Nagel -
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Xavier Roussel