How well suited is RoundCube to an install w/ about 700,000 mailboxes on Courier-IMAP. The load will be somewhere between 800 and 2500 users at any given time using the system (150-350 views/s on apache, 200qps on mysql avg). SquirrelMail is the current client, pretty light and fast, and it's IMAP routines are amazing when you have high load. I know RC uses IlohaMail as its IMAP provider, but when we tried Iloha it did not perform well under load.
Has anybody attempted such a large setup with RoundCube before? I'm shopping around for a new webmail client due to the nearly unskinnable nature of SquirrelMail. The users keep blabbering about making webmail look nice, or something crazy like that.
-- Christopher A. Watford christopher.watford@gmail.com http://dorm.tunkeymicket.com http://www.theroadtrip2005.com
Christopher,
As far as I'm aware (from my involvement in this list) there are currently no sites as large as that in use. You're obviously welcome to test it out with a handful of users and let us know how it goes :)
Be aware that the software is, according to www.roundcube.net, still in the Alpha stage. This should be considered when looking for possible replacements for a 700k user setup - I'm assuming with that many users, any downtime means big dramas and buckets of fun for you and/or your team :)
Ross
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 22:12:31 -0400, "Christopher A. Watford" christopher.watford@gmail.com wrote:
How well suited is RoundCube to an install w/ about 700,000 mailboxes
on Courier-IMAP. The load will be somewhere between 800 and 2500 users
at any given time using the system (150-350 views/s on apache, 200qps
on mysql avg). SquirrelMail is the current client, pretty light and
fast, and it's IMAP routines are amazing when you have high load. I
know RC uses IlohaMail as its IMAP provider, but when we tried Iloha
it did not perform well under load.
Has anybody attempted such a large setup with RoundCube before? I'm
shopping around for a new webmail client due to the nearly unskinnable
nature of SquirrelMail. The users keep blabbering about making webmail
look nice, or something crazy like that.
--
Christopher A. Watford
christopher.watford@gmail.com
On 10/13/05, Ross Poulton ross@rossp.org wrote:
Christopher,
As far as I'm aware (from my involvement in this list) there are currently no sites as large as that in use. You're obviously welcome to test it out with a handful of users and let us know how it goes :)
Be aware that the software is, according to www.roundcube.net, still in the Alpha stage. This should be considered when looking for possible replacements for a 700k user setup - I'm assuming with that many users, any downtime means big dramas and buckets of fun for you and/or your team :)
Ross
We'll I'm just the programmer, downtime is ok if things get accomplished. Moreover, I'm willing to contribute any changes I make back to the community, but only if the underlying IMAP code can handle the load. It'd be a beotch and a half to throw in the SM code at this point if the Iloha can't handle it. Granted it may not be as bad as I make it out to be, but it wouldn't be worth it to me to help that along.
However, as far as caching goes, if I end up using RC I will be submitting patches to have memcached handle all the caching rather than files or databases.
-- Christopher A. Watford christopher.watford@gmail.com http://dorm.tunkeymicket.com http://www.theroadtrip2005.com
3 years ago I tried to deploy Squirrelmail for system a little bit
larger than yours, it failed miserably.
We found out the reason was authentication, so we deployed imapproxy.
Once we did that squirrelmail was able to handle
things much better. This was on a cluster of about 5 RHAS boxes, and
mysql for authentication. Changing mail specially webmail
for such a large number of users may not be as ok as you think. If
you're a shared hosting provider like we were, you better do your tests
and load balancing, or you're be firefighting a lot :).
On Oct 13, 2005, at 10:26 PM, Christopher A. Watford wrote:
On 10/13/05, Ross Poulton ross@rossp.org wrote:
Christopher,
As far as I'm aware (from my involvement in this list) there are
currently no sites as large as that in use. You're obviously
welcome to test it out with a handful of users and let us know how
it goes :)Be aware that the software is, according to www.roundcube.net,
still in the Alpha stage. This should be considered when looking
for possible replacements for a 700k user setup - I'm assuming
with that many users, any downtime means big dramas and buckets of
fun for you and/or your team :)Ross
We'll I'm just the programmer, downtime is ok if things get accomplished. Moreover, I'm willing to contribute any changes I make back to the community, but only if the underlying IMAP code can handle the load. It'd be a beotch and a half to throw in the SM code at this point if the Iloha can't handle it. Granted it may not be as bad as I make it out to be, but it wouldn't be worth it to me to help that along.
However, as far as caching goes, if I end up using RC I will be submitting patches to have memcached handle all the caching rather than files or databases.
-- Christopher A. Watford christopher.watford@gmail.com http://dorm.tunkeymicket.com http://www.theroadtrip2005.com
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