Hi Thomas,

Would it be possible to change the mailling list headers so that the mailing list address is used as "to" address when replying to the mail, instead of the sender's real address (in this case thomas @ roundcube.net) ?

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Thomas Bruederli thomas@roundcube.netwrote:

The migration is now done and reading this message confirms that your subscription is still active :-)

Cheers, Thomas

Thomas Bruederli wrote:

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Dear subscribers of the Roundcube mailing lists

I'd like to announce the migration of our mailing lists to a new host which is planned to take place on Monday, March 5th at 3pm GMT. There's no action required on your side, all subscriptions and settings will be transferred to the new host. There might be some delay until all nodes on the net have updated their DNS entries for lists.roundcube.net and to avoid any loss of messages during that period, we recommend to suspend posting between 3pm and 9pm GMT on Monday.

This is also a good occasion to thank Jason at gigo.com for offering the list hosting for the last couple of years and to Jeroen at kolab.org to take over.

Best, Thomas

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awesome Jeroen, it works now. thanks a lot.

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) < vanmeeuwen@kolabsys.com> wrote:

On 2012-03-05 16:09, Claudio Kuenzler wrote:

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Hi Thomas,

Would it be possible to change the mailling list headers so that the mailing list address is used as "to" address when replying to the mail, instead of the sender's real address (in this case thomas @ roundcube.net) ?

Yes, that's actually standard mailman configuration. Done.

Kind regards,

Jeroen van Meeuwen

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On 2012-03-05 16:26, Georg C. F. Greve wrote:

On Monday 05 March 2012 16.12:26 Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:

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List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/ BT/%(user_delivered_to_md5)s

Uhm. Kinky footer.

Indeed. I've reset all the footers for the Roundcube mailing lists to the default mailman footer for lists, for now.

Kind regards,

Jeroen van Meeuwen

On 2012-03-06 18:48, Benny Pedersen wrote:

Den 2012-03-05 17:12, Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) skrev:

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Yes, that's actually standard mailman configuration. Done.

some users is ignoreing reply-to and send to maillist senders aswell as maillists, think its needs followup-to to avoid it :/

These users probably use reply-all instead of reply (read: reply to sender). It is up to the client application that is used to determine whether 'reply-all' includes only the address set in the Reply-To header for an email, or whether to include the address in the From header.

It is a user option to suppress duplicate delivery, which is enabled for new subscribers by default.

You, for example, should not receive this message twice. The list delivery should be suppressed, while the direct answer (by manually putting you in CC:) should arrive.

Kind regards,

Jeroen van Meeuwen

On 2012-03-06 23:24, Benny Pedersen wrote:

Den 2012-03-07 00:13, Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) skrev:

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You, for example, should not receive this message twice. The list delivery should be suppressed, while the direct answer (by manually putting you in CC:) should arrive.

i cant reply to maillist now without sending you a forced cc :/

The message delivered to you directly should still have a To: address of dev@lists.roundcube.net. Your personal address should appear in CC:. Reply-all should reply to at least the list.

please test roundcube :)

I am on Roundcube.

Kind regards,

Jeroen van Meeuwen

On 2012-03-06 23:41, Benny Pedersen wrote:

Den 2012-03-07 00:30, Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) skrev:

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I am on Roundcube.

reply-all should be greyed out when precedence header exists, roundcube bug ?

Please, it should not be greyed out. Reply-all is commonly used for mailing list communications since time immemorial.

Many more people then you may think read lists through archives and disable list delivery. I am one of those persons.

Some then set their own Reply-To (which mailman does not strip unless we tell it to) so that responses end up in their INBOX and they know they have been responded to.

That setting an extra Reply-To header I don't do, but I have addresses subscribed to lists delivering lists' traffic to shared folders instead of my personal folders.

Roundcube seems to just insert the Reply-To address in the list of recipients upon Reply and Reply-All, that's fine.

Kind regards,

Jeroen van Meeuwen

2012.03.07 10:01, Claudio Kuenzler rašė:

Yes it is different now than before. But before the reply-to has been "/wrong"/ the whole time ;-)

Before: Reply to the mail has put the real sender of the e-mail into the reply-to field Now: Reply to the mail puts the mailing list into the reply-to field

Roundcube was actually the only list (and I'm subscribed to many OSS-lists) where this reply-to behaviour occured.

I think how it is now is the standard for mailing lists and it prevents the problem that you hit reply and you send an e-mail only to the real sender of the previous mail instead of to the mailing list.

I think this topic is a bit religious. Try googling for "reply-to munging" (quotes not needed) then read the first few links to see the contrary opinion.

Any application can have a Reply to List button, which then does what it says, leaving the Reply button do its usual job which is replying to sender (or the Reply-To address specified by the sender). The problem is that only few applications provide that button, and I guess such practice is usually regarded as geekery.

Regards, Rimas

Den 2012-03-07 09:01, Claudio Kuenzler skrev:

Yes it is different now than before. But before the reply-to has been "_wrong"_ the whole time ;-)

hitting reply now reply to maillist, so now its impossible to reply private to orginal sender, thanks for that :)

Before: Reply to the mail has put the real sender of the e-mail into the reply-to field Now: Reply to the mail puts the mailing list into the reply-to field

sounds ok, but does roundcube work now or not ?

Roundcube was actually the only list (and Im subscribed to many OSS-lists) where this reply-to behaviour occured.

I think how it is now is the standard for mailing lists and it prevents the problem that you hit reply and you send an e-mail only to the real sender of the previous mail instead of to the mailing list.

more roundcube testing is okay