Re: [RCD] [Svn] [roundcube/roundcubemail] 57ea83: Merge branch 'master' of github.com:roundcube/roundcubemail
Am 02.01.2013 19:25, schrieb GitHub:
Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail
[...]
Commit: 57ea837e69b775d0b0e25b0db7887ad245a39fa7
https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/commit/57ea837e69b775d0b0e25b0db7... Author: Aleksander Machniak alec@alec.pl Date: 2013-01-02 (Wed, 02 Jan 2013)
Changed paths: M plugins/acl/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/acl/localization/en_US.inc M plugins/archive/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/help/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/hide_blockquote/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/managesieve/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/markasjunk/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/new_user_dialog/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/newmail_notifier/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/password/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/subscriptions_option/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/userinfo/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/vcard_attachments/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/zipdownload/localization/de_CH.inc M program/lib/Mail/mime.php M program/lib/Mail/mimeDecode.php M program/lib/Mail/mimePart.php M program/localization/de_CH/labels.inc M program/localization/de_CH/messages.inc
Log Message:
Merge branch 'master' of github.com:roundcube/roundcubemail
Hmm. What is the sense/background of changes like this:
-$messages['deletecontactconfirm'] = 'Wollen Sie die ausgewählten Kontakte wirklich löschen?'; -$messages['deletegroupconfirm'] = 'Wollen Sie die gewählte Gruppe wirklich löschen?'; +$messages['deletecontactconfirm'] = 'Wollen Sie die ausgewählten Kontakte wirklich löschen?'; +$messages['deletegroupconfirm'] = 'Wollen Sie die gewählte Gruppe wirklich löschen?';
The only change I can see is an additional white space preceding the "=" (now two instead of just one before).
And if this should really make sense: Why then in de_CH, but apparently not in de_DE?
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Michael Heydekamp listuser@freexp.de wrote:
Am 02.01.2013 19:25, schrieb GitHub:
Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail
[...]
Commit: 57ea837e69b775d0b0e25b0db7887ad245a39fa7
https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/commit/57ea837e69b775d0b0e25b0db7... Author: Aleksander Machniak alec@alec.pl Date: 2013-01-02 (Wed, 02 Jan 2013)
Changed paths: M plugins/acl/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/acl/localization/en_US.inc M plugins/archive/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/help/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/hide_blockquote/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/managesieve/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/markasjunk/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/new_user_dialog/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/newmail_notifier/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/password/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/subscriptions_option/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/userinfo/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/vcard_attachments/localization/de_CH.inc M plugins/zipdownload/localization/de_CH.inc M program/lib/Mail/mime.php M program/lib/Mail/mimeDecode.php M program/lib/Mail/mimePart.php M program/localization/de_CH/labels.inc M program/localization/de_CH/messages.inc
Log Message:
Merge branch 'master' of github.com:roundcube/roundcubemail
Hmm. What is the sense/background of changes like this:
-$messages['deletecontactconfirm'] = 'Wollen Sie die ausgewählten Kontakte wirklich löschen?'; -$messages['deletegroupconfirm'] = 'Wollen Sie die gewählte Gruppe wirklich löschen?'; +$messages['deletecontactconfirm'] = 'Wollen Sie die ausgewählten Kontakte wirklich löschen?'; +$messages['deletegroupconfirm'] = 'Wollen Sie die gewählte Gruppe wirklich löschen?';
The only change I can see is an additional white space preceding the "=" (now two instead of just one before).
And if this should really make sense: Why then in de_CH, but apparently not in de_DE?
Please see the original commit "de2009: Pulled de_CH translations from Transifex (first test)". I guess the commit messages pretty much explains everything. This one was just a merge of Alec's local master with the remote master.
~Thomas
Am 05.01.2013 12:56, schrieb Thomas Bruederli:
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Michael Heydekamp listuser@freexp.de wrote:
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The only change I can see is an additional white space preceding the "=" (now two instead of just one before).
And if this should really make sense: Why then in de_CH, but apparently not in de_DE?
Please see the original commit "de2009: Pulled de_CH translations from Transifex (first test)". I guess the commit messages pretty much explains everything. This one was just a merge of Alec's local master with the remote master.
I totally missed your post with regards to the move to Transifex, sorry for that. Although the commit does not explain everything to me, I now know at least what it's about.
In your post, you wrote:
So if you're interested in becoming a member for a certain language team, choose the language from the list and then click on "Join team" on the upper right part of the overview page.
There is no link "Join team" on that (or any other) page?! Others must have found it, as they already joined the team, but honestly, I can't see it. There is a link "SIGN UP FREE", but that's not the right one, I guess. What to do...?
BTW, in the last visible line of the commit, there are three errors:
'Achtung! Dieser Webmail-Service erfordert Javascript. Um ihn zu benutzten aktivieren Sie Javascript in ihren Browser-Einstellungen.'; 'Achtung! Dieser Webmail-Service erfordert Javascript. Um ihn zu benutzen, aktivieren Sie Javascript in Ihren Browser-Einstellungen.'; ^ ^ ^
Cheers,
Michael Heydekamp Co-Admin freexp.de Düsseldorf/Germany
Am 05.01.2013 14:39, schrieb Michael Heydekamp:
In your post, you wrote:
So if you're interested in becoming a member for a certain language team, choose the language from the list and then click on "Join team" on the upper right part of the overview page.
There is no link "Join team" on that (or any other) page?! Others must have found it, as they already joined the team, but honestly, I can't see it. There is a link "SIGN UP FREE", but that's not the right one, I guess. What to do...?
Still can't find a "Join team" link on https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/roundcube-webmail/language/de_DE/ (IE8).
Any helpful hint appreciated.
Michael Heydekamp Co-Admin freexp.de Düsseldorf/Germany
Michael Heydekamp schreef op 2013-01-07 00:27:
Still can't find a "Join team" link on
https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/roundcube-webmail/language/de_DE/ (IE8).
This link is only visible when you are already signed in with a (free) Transifex account. If you are signed in you'll see the following screenshot: http://imgur.com/02RI8
Cheers, Geert
Am 07.01.2013 00:41, schrieb Geert Wirken:
Michael Heydekamp schreef op 2013-01-07 00:27:
Still can't find a "Join team" link on https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/roundcube-webmail/language/de_DE/ (IE8).
This link is only visible when you are already signed in with a (free) Transifex account. If you are signed in you'll see the following screenshot: http://imgur.com/02RI8
Thanks a lot, Geert, that wasn't mentioned in Thomas' message.
Did so, confirmed the link in the e-mail, and indeed the link "Join team" was now visible. Clicked on it, got a small AJAX window with a button "Join language translation", clicked that button, but received no response. Clicked again, again no response.
Accidentally sent the message too early, sorry for that.
Screenshot attached, this way it stays forever, no matter how many times I click on that "Join language translation" button. This isn't the way it should work, should it?
Well, we'll see if anything will gonna happen...
Cheers,
Michael Heydekamp Co-Admin freexp.de Düsseldorf/Germany
Am 07.01.2013 01:32, schrieb Michael Heydekamp:
Am 07.01.2013 00:41, schrieb Geert Wirken:
Michael Heydekamp schreef op 2013-01-07 00:27:
Still can't find a "Join team" link on https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/roundcube-webmail/language/de_DE/ (IE8).
This link is only visible when you are already signed in with a (free) Transifex account. If you are signed in you'll see the following screenshot: http://imgur.com/02RI8
Thanks a lot, Geert, that wasn't mentioned in Thomas' message.
Did so, confirmed the link in the e-mail, and indeed the link "Join team" was now visible. Clicked on it, got a small AJAX window with a button "Join language translation", clicked that button, but received no response. Clicked again, again no response.
-- Michael Heydekamp Co-Admin freexp.de Düsseldorf/Germany _______________________________________________ Roundcube Development discussion mailing list dev@lists.roundcube.net http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev
On 07-01-13 01:41, Michael Heydekamp wrote:
Accidentally sent the message too early, sorry for that.
Screenshot attached, this way it stays forever, no matter how many times I click on that "Join language translation" button. This isn't the way it should work, should it?
Well, we'll see if anything will gonna happen...
Have you tried an other browser already? I had no problems joining but I used Firefox, maybe there is a bug in the Transifex website only for IE. Alternatively Alec or Thomas can add you as a translator by filling in your username in the list of translator. The option is 'Edit language team'.
Cheers, Geert
On 01/08/2013 08:35 AM, Geert Wirken wrote:
Alternatively Alec or Thomas can add you as a translator by filling in your username in the list of translator. The option is 'Edit language team'.
I added myfreexp user to de_CH and de_DE teams.
Here's transifex bugtracker: https://github.com/transifex/transifex/issues
Am 08.01.2013 08:44, schrieb A.L.E.C:
On 01/08/2013 08:35 AM, Geert Wirken wrote:
Alternatively Alec or Thomas can add you as a translator by filling in your username in the list of translator. The option is 'Edit language team'.
I added myfreexp user to de_CH and de_DE teams.
Thanks, Alec!
Here's transifex bugtracker: https://github.com/transifex/transifex/issues
Well, but do these folks at Transifex not test their site with the various browsers...?
GitHub is at least throwing a warning that they do not support IE8 anymore (although I didn't have any issue with the GitHub site yet). But neither giving a warning nor testing nor supporting it, looks a bit, uh, ignorant to me.
But this is not a Roundcube issue, of course.
Michael Heydekamp Co-Admin freexp.de Düsseldorf/Germany
Apparently the entire Transifex site is incompatible with IE8 (or vice versa). :-(
Logged in, clicked in de_DE on language resources "plugin-archive" and "Webmail Labels" just for testing purposes, clicked on "Translate now", and afterwards got an AJAX message "Loading strings..." which I can watch forever, but nothing gets loaded.
Clicked on the browser's back button, now both resources "plugin-archive" and "Webmail Labels" appear as "Locked", whatever that means and why they are locked at all.
So I can't do anything in Transifex. Hmm.
Michael Heydekamp Co-Admin freexp.de Düsseldorf/Germany
Am 08.01.2013 21:51, schrieb Michael Heydekamp:
Am 08.01.2013 08:44, schrieb A.L.E.C:
On 01/08/2013 08:35 AM, Geert Wirken wrote:
Alternatively Alec or Thomas can add you as a translator by filling in your username in the list of translator. The option is 'Edit language team'.
I added myfreexp user to de_CH and de_DE teams.
Thanks, Alec!
Here's transifex bugtracker: https://github.com/transifex/transifex/issues
Well, but do these folks at Transifex not test their site with the various browsers...?
GitHub is at least throwing a warning that they do not support IE8 anymore (although I didn't have any issue with the GitHub site yet). But neither giving a warning nor testing nor supporting it, looks a bit, uh, ignorant to me.
But this is not a Roundcube issue, of course.
Michael Heydekamp Co-Admin freexp.de Düsseldorf/Germany _______________________________________________ Roundcube Development discussion mailing list dev@lists.roundcube.net http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev
Hi Michael,
Why don't you switch to Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Safari, etc?
Browsing with IE is like driving an old carriage on the freeway. Or worse...
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On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Michael Heydekamp listuser@freexp.dewrote:
Apparently the entire Transifex site is incompatible with IE8 (or vice versa). :-(
Logged in, clicked in de_DE on language resources "plugin-archive" and "Webmail Labels" just for testing purposes, clicked on "Translate now", and afterwards got an AJAX message "Loading strings..." which I can watch forever, but nothing gets loaded.
Clicked on the browser's back button, now both resources "plugin-archive" and "Webmail Labels" appear as "Locked", whatever that means and why they are locked at all.
So I can't do anything in Transifex. Hmm.
Michael Heydekamp Co-Admin freexp.de Düsseldorf/Germany
Am 08.01.2013 21:51, schrieb Michael Heydekamp:
Am 08.01.2013 08:44, schrieb A.L.E.C:
On 01/08/2013 08:35 AM, Geert Wirken wrote:
Alternatively Alec or Thomas can add you as a translator by filling in your username in the list of translator. The option is 'Edit language
team'.
I added myfreexp user to de_CH and de_DE teams.
Thanks, Alec!
Here's transifex bugtracker:
https://github.com/transifex/transifex/issues
Well, but do these folks at Transifex not test their site with the
various
browsers...?
GitHub is at least throwing a warning that they do not support IE8
anymore
(although I didn't have any issue with the GitHub site yet). But neither giving a warning nor testing nor supporting it, looks a bit, uh,
ignorant to
me.
But this is not a Roundcube issue, of course.
Michael Heydekamp Co-Admin freexp.de Düsseldorf/Germany _______________________________________________ Roundcube Development discussion mailing list dev@lists.roundcube.net http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev
Roundcube Development discussion mailing list dev@lists.roundcube.net http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev
On 09-01-13 01:19, Michael Heydekamp wrote:
Clicked on the browser's back button, now both resources "plugin-archive" and "Webmail Labels" appear as "Locked", whatever that means and why they are locked at all.
Translations are locked when you start translating a component, so that translations from other users won't interfere your translations. IIRC the locks are resolved automatically within 24 hours but as you were probably the one who set the lock in the first place, you can probably translate strings despite the lock.
Are you tied to this version of IE or to IE at all? I would recommend to upgrade your browser or install another one. I had no problems with Transifex at all using a recent version of Firefox.
Cheers, Geert
Am 09.01.2013 08:34, schrieb Geert Wirken:
On 09-01-13 01:19, Michael Heydekamp wrote:
Clicked on the browser's back button, now both resources "plugin-archive" and "Webmail Labels" appear as "Locked", whatever that means and why they are locked at all.
Translations are locked when you start translating a component, so that translations from other users won't interfere your translations. IIRC the locks are resolved automatically within 24 hours but as you were probably the one who set the lock in the first place, you can probably translate strings despite the lock.
As I don't even see any strings (see my previous messages), I can of course also not translate (or correct) any of them.
Are you tied to this version of IE or to IE at all?
In several ways, yes:
- At least FF doesn't support group policies (i.e. Microsoft's Group
Policy Management Console, GPMC), unless that should have changed recently, which I'd not be aware of. Not sure about Chrome and others, but I doubt that they'll support it.
- I'm tied to "this version of IE" (IE8) in so far as I'm the (only?) one
who is deliberately testing this browser version with Roundcube and reporting any issues. Apparently no one of the developers is doing this himself.
The history of 2) is that after release of Roundcube 0.8.1 in August 2012, all of a sudden it was almost unusable with IE8: A single click on any mail (or any other link within Rouncube such as "Settings") made Roundcube disappear completely (well, it's window was "just" thrown to the background, which a standard user may not even realize).
So I agreed with Thomas to act as a sort of IE8 tester. As long as Roundcube is supporting it, of course.
I think I posted that to this list already quite some time ago.
I would recommend to upgrade your browser
I believe there is no way to install (and run) IE8 and IE9/10 side-by-side.
or install another one. I had no problems with Transifex at all using a recent version of Firefox.
Well... Honestly, I don't like websites too much which do only support the very latest version of (a) specific browser(s), and want to force me to install even more software on my machine than really needed - even less when not giving any warning (different to GitHub). Especially tech oriented websites such as Transifex which are meant to act as a sort of programming tool, should show some more sense for downwards compatibility as the fancy ones, IMO.
So I would recommend to fix the website. ;)
Also that they let me use an Avatar through gravatar.com only, does not make this site too sympathic to me. Well, so I won't use an Avatar, but I'm asking myself why these Transifex folks are going this way. Makes me suspicious.
I'll probably try to loan an iPad from somewhere and do the translations/corrections from there, if Safari should be compatible with Transifex...
Cheers,
Michael Heydekamp Co-Admin freexp.de Düsseldorf/Germany
Cant you just use FF or Chrome specifically for the translations? Whats the big deal?
Cor
Am 09.01.2013 21:53, schrieb Cor Bosman:
Cant you just use FF or Chrome specifically for the translations? Whats the big deal?
I'm not saying it's a "big" deal. But it's a deal - at least I will have to install the stuff and wasting space on my HD. And as I said, I'm reluctant to install this and that software (i.e. browser) just because of ONE weak tech oriented website, which wants me to do so because they are neither willing nor able to a) throw any warning, and b) support the standard browser of a Win7/64 system, which can't be considered as being totally outdated.
I honour Roundcube and its developers a lot for still supporting IE8 and doing these and those hacks where so required. That's how a decent web app should work.
Wondering why no one (but me) does blame the Transifex website rather than IE8.
And believe me, I'm definitely not one of M$ biggest friends....
Cheers,
Michael Heydekamp Co-Admin freexp.de Düsseldorf/Germany
On 01/09/2013 10:44 PM, Michael Heydekamp wrote:
Wondering why no one (but me) does blame the Transifex website rather than IE8.
Of course Transifex is to blame. Either support IE8 or warn users that IE8 is not supported. But did you report this to the Transifex developers? I guess they should be the ones in charge of fixing this issue. Roundcube is merely an user of Transifex. Not meant to be offensive, but I think the problem will be fixed faster when addressed to the right people.
Github issue tracker: https://github.com/transifex/transifex/issues
Contact form (if you don't have a Github account): http://support.transifex.com/anonymous_requests/new
Cheers, Geert
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