I'm used to Thunderbird, and there a couple of features in it that would make Roundcube far more useful to me.
The first is the split window layout that Thunderbird uses. I normally select the oldest message, and Thunderbird immediately shows that message in another window. I then just hit Delete or Junk repeatedly to peel through all of the emails. Just one click per email, and I don't have to move the mouse around. I am viewing the subject list the whole time, so I can queue up decisions in my mind as to what is spam, and what needs to be read.
With Roundcube, I have to double click on a message, then the whole page is replaced with the message. If I hit Delete, I am sent back to the subject list. It would be much better for me if the next message would simply load in place. Then I could just keep hitting Delete to get through all of my messages. Squirrel mail has a "Delete and Next" link that does this. Right now, I have to go back and forth between the subject list and the message window, reloading the subjects each time I read a message, which can be time consuming.
Anyway, great job on Roundcube. It's an impressive webmail client.
Thanks,
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Tobiah put forth on 4/22/2010 11:08 AM:
I'm used to Thunderbird, and there a couple of features in it that would make Roundcube far more useful to me.
I'm a heavy TB user as well. It's my primary client (just check the header of this message).
The first is the split window layout that Thunderbird uses.
My RC 0.3.1 is laid out exactly like my TB: Folder list on the left, message list on top right, and message preview on bottom right.
I normally select the oldest message, and Thunderbird immediately shows that message in another window.
Why do you need the message in another window? Just view what's in the preview pane to decide if it's spam, junk, or legit.
I then just hit Delete
This works for me exactly as you describe it.
or Junk repeatedly to peel through all of the emails. Just one click per email, and I don't have to move the mouse around. I am viewing the subject list the whole time, so I can queue up decisions in my mind as to what is spam, and what needs to be read.
This works exactly the same way in RC 0.3.1.
With Roundcube, I have to double click on a message, then
It's a web application--NOTHING requires a double click.
the whole page is replaced with the message. If I hit Delete, I am sent back to the subject list. It would be much better for me if the next message would simply load in place. Then I could just keep hitting Delete to get through all of my messages. Squirrel mail has a "Delete and Next" link that does this. Right now, I have to go back and forth between the subject list and the message window, reloading the subjects each time I read a message, which can be time consuming.
All of these things are configurable by clicking the "Settings" option in the top right corner. I can think of at least 3 you should have checked that you probably currently do not. Look into the Settings and tweak them to your liking.
Hi Tobiah, Hey list
I slightly remember that a question similar to this has already been discussed in the list. I also remember that most users were against this, and I personally agreed with that for several reasons:
a) Unwanted read message: If you hit delete when opened an e-mail and the next or previous e-mail is shown, you may have wanted to read that particular e-mail later but it will now appear as unread. You have to manually set it as unread again back in the Inbox overview.
b) Security/Anti-Spam: What if the next/previous e-mail is a spam e-mail or worse contains a virus? Roundcube has the possibility to block external content (like images, scripts, and so on) but it is also possible that a virus was received from a mail address being part in your address book. Depending on the setting, this e-mail will be fully shown, including external contents.
c) Overview: Now this one is more a personal question. Many people like it to go back to overview before opening a new e-mail. You're slower treating your mails like this, but you have more overview.
Although you see that I'm FOR keeping it the way it actually is, I agree that a switch in the configuration file would be a good idea. This switch could define the standard behavior when having opened an e-mail (either go back to Inbox/Folder view or load next mail).
Claudio
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Tobiah toby@tobiah.org wrote:
I'm used to Thunderbird, and there a couple of features in it that would make Roundcube far more useful to me.
The first is the split window layout that Thunderbird uses. I normally select the oldest message, and Thunderbird immediately shows that message in another window. I then just hit Delete or Junk repeatedly to peel through all of the emails. Just one click per email, and I don't have to move the mouse around. I am viewing the subject list the whole time, so I can queue up decisions in my mind as to what is spam, and what needs to be read.
With Roundcube, I have to double click on a message, then the whole page is replaced with the message. If I hit Delete, I am sent back to the subject list. It would be much better for me if the next message would simply load in place. Then I could just keep hitting Delete to get through all of my messages. Squirrel mail has a "Delete and Next" link that does this. Right now, I have to go back and forth between the subject list and the message window, reloading the subjects each time I read a message, which can be time consuming.
Anyway, great job on Roundcube. It's an impressive webmail client.
Thanks,
Tobiah _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/users/
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Claudio Kuenzler wrote:
Hi Tobiah, Hey list
I slightly remember that a question similar to this has already been discussed in the list. I also remember that most users were against this, and I personally agreed with that for several reasons:
a) Unwanted read message: If you hit delete when opened an e-mail and the next or previous e-mail is shown, you may have wanted to read that particular e-mail later but it will now appear as unread. You have to manually set it as unread again back in the Inbox overview.
In the upcoming version 0.4-beta (will be released later today) there are config options available for all what you're requesting here. Even with 0.3 you can choose whether to have a preview pane and we just added an option where one can specify whether messages viewed in the preview pane are automatically marked as read and after how many seconds this should happen.
b) Security/Anti-Spam: What if the next/previous e-mail is a spam e-mail or worse contains a virus? Roundcube has the possibility to block external content (like images, scripts, and so on) but it is also possible that a virus was received from a mail address being part in your address book. Depending on the setting, this e-mail will be fully shown, including external contents.
There's another option (in section "Displaying Messages") where one can set whether the next message in row should be opened when moving or deleting the current message. This option applies in both the preview pane and the full message view mode.
c) Overview: Now this one is more a personal question. Many people like it to go back to overview before opening a new e-mail. You're slower treating your mails like this, but you have more overview.
Although you see that I'm FOR keeping it the way it actually is, I agree that a switch in the configuration file would be a good idea. This switch could define the standard behavior when having opened an e-mail (either go back to Inbox/Folder view or load next mail).
I think there's no need to change any behavior of Roundcube since all these different use cases are already covered. All you need to do is choosing the right settings.
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