I've been using 0.4 beta, because attaching a file is buggy in 0.3.1 (large files silently fail to attach). But there are still a few issues in 0.4-beta as well. My main question is why does roundcube not release more beta's as more issues are fixed. 0.4-beta was released in April, so it has almost been 4 months. And the fact that it's not called "beta1" suggests that there will be only one beta release, correct?
One thing that I see is that the virtuser_file plugin is either not well enough documented, or it's not working correctly. I have hardcoded the virtuser_file variable because when I added the config option to the global config option, it did not get it correctly. I really don't think that plugin variables should be stored in the main config anyways.
I love roundcube, and I understand that beta software really isn't for live environments, but I would think that there would be at least 2 or 3 beta's for something as important as mail software. That is just my suggestion though.
I'd be even happier to see a stable 0.4 released. Thanks for all of your work.
I'll answer before ALEC does it: Use the latest SVN trunk version: http://trac.roundcube.net/browser/trunk
:-)
Indeed, there have been A LOT of bugfixes after the BETA release. So maybe also your virtuser_file issue has been solved. Arne Berglund had some issues with it as well but it seems to work well with a recent version from trunk. I'm sure he can confirm that to the list.
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Bradlee Landis bradleelandis@gmail.comwrote:
I've been using 0.4 beta, because attaching a file is buggy in 0.3.1 (large files silently fail to attach). But there are still a few issues in 0.4-beta as well. My main question is why does roundcube not release more beta's as more issues are fixed. 0.4-beta was released in April, so it has almost been 4 months. And the fact that it's not called "beta1" suggests that there will be only one beta release, correct?
One thing that I see is that the virtuser_file plugin is either not well enough documented, or it's not working correctly. I have hardcoded the virtuser_file variable because when I added the config option to the global config option, it did not get it correctly. I really don't think that plugin variables should be stored in the main config anyways.
I love roundcube, and I understand that beta software really isn't for live environments, but I would think that there would be at least 2 or 3 beta's for something as important as mail software. That is just my suggestion though.
I'd be even happier to see a stable 0.4 released. Thanks for all of your work.
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Yes, I have the virtuser_file working properly now, in r3788 for our "production" box. I did find that I had to declare the file location inside main.inc.php, not inside the plugin.
I've also seen indications on the forum that 0.4-stable may be released soon...
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On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 16:38:56 +0200, Claudio Kuenzler wrote:
I'll answer before ALEC does it: Use the latest SVN trunk version: http://trac.roundcube.net/browser/trunk [1]
:-)
Indeed, there have been A LOT of bugfixes after the BETA release. So maybe also your virtuser_file issue has been solved. Arne Berglund had some issues with it as well but it seems to work well with a recent version from trunk. I'm sure he can confirm that to the list.
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Bradlee Landis wrote: I've been using 0.4 beta, because attaching a file is buggy in 0.3.1 (large files silently fail to attach). But there are still a few issues in 0.4-beta as well. My main question is why does roundcube not release more beta's as more issues are fixed. 0.4-beta was released in April, so it has almost been 4 months. And the fact that it's not called "beta1" suggests that there will be only one beta release, correct?
One thing that I see is that the virtuser_file plugin is either not well enough documented, or it's not working correctly. I have hardcoded the virtuser_file variable because when I added the config option to the global config option, it did not get it correctly. I really don't think that plugin variables should be stored in the main config anyways.
I love roundcube, and I understand that beta software really isn't for live environments, but I would think that there would be at least 2 or 3 beta's for something as important as mail software. That is just my suggestion though.
I'd be even happier to see a stable 0.4 released. Thanks for all of your work.
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On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Claudio Kuenzler napsty@gmail.com wrote:
I'll answer before ALEC does it: Use the latest SVN trunk version: http://trac.roundcube.net/browser/trunk
But, isn't svn trunk even more dangerous than a beta? Generally, most trunk versions of software can have incomplete features. If you're using branches for features, then it's not a problem.
And if I use svn trunk, do you have "nightly" versions, or do I just have to pull it manually?
I have about 200-400 users depending on this being stable.
Indeed, there have been A LOT of bugfixes after the BETA release. So maybe also your virtuser_file issue has been solved. Arne Berglund had some issues with it as well but it seems to work well with a recent version from trunk. I'm sure he can confirm that to the list.
I looked at the svn version of this plugin a week ago or so, and it seemed to be the same. I'll look at it again though.
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Arne Berglund aberglund@lesd.k12.or.us wrote:
Yes, I have the virtuser_file working properly now, in r3788 for our "production" box. I did find that I had to declare the file location inside main.inc.php, not inside the plugin.
It seems like the variable could be anywhere with a simple include() statement. At least it is fixed though.
I've also seen indications on the forum that 0.4-stable may be released soon...
Good deal. I'll have to go check out the thread.
We have about 50,000 users depending on it right now, and im running SVN-3838 or something. The SVN versions are generally better than 0.4-beta. But you have to be willing to be on top of things. I check the tracker almost every day to see if any serious issues were addressed, or more importantly, patches were reversed.
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On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 17:33:09 +0200, Cor Bosman cor@xs4all.nl wrote:
We have about 50,000 users depending on it right now, and im running SVN-3838 or something. The SVN versions are generally better than 0.4-beta. But you have to be willing to be on top of things. I check the tracker almost every day to see if any serious issues were addressed, or more importantly, patches were reversed.
Cor
Agreed. My ~2000 users are on r3788. I decided to hold it there until the Safari/Windows attachment bug was fixed. (That happened over the weekend.) I do not update my "production" server until I have identified a stable Trunk release, and even then only after testing.
I would recommend that if you decide to go this route, install Subversion to checkout and manage your Trunk version rather than manually downloading a nightly build. Using Subversion you can easily backout a bad update.
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On 02.08.2010 16:33, Bradlee Landis wrote:
I've been using 0.4 beta, because attaching a file is buggy in 0.3.1 (large files silently fail to attach). But there are still a few issues in 0.4-beta as well. My main question is why does roundcube not release more beta's as more issues are fixed. 0.4-beta was released in April, so it has almost been 4 months. And the fact that it's not called "beta1" suggests that there will be only one beta release, correct?
Yeah. Common release cycle is: alpha, beta, (sometime rc), stable and at least one bugfix release. In the past we have ca.1-3 months for each stage, but because Roundcube Dev Team is very small so we've got sometimes lags.
Because the code is in svn, everybody can make a release: http://trac.roundcube.net/wiki/Dev_ReleaseManagement
p.s. 0.4-stable release is sheduled for tomorrow.
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:01 AM, A.L.E.C alec@alec.pl wrote:
Yeah. Common release cycle is: alpha, beta, (sometime rc), stable and at least one bugfix release. In the past we have ca.1-3 months for each stage, but because Roundcube Dev Team is very small so we've got sometimes lags.
Because the code is in svn, everybody can make a release: http://trac.roundcube.net/wiki/Dev_ReleaseManagement
p.s. 0.4-stable release is sheduled for tomorrow.
Great! I know how tough it is to manage a project that is unpaid. If I had control of our company funds, I would like to help out more open source projects like yours, but I'm just a code monkey. Anyways, keep up the good work!
On 02/08/2010 16:42, Arne Berglund wrote:
I would recommend that if you decide to go this route, install Subversion to checkout and manage your Trunk version rather than manually downloading a nightly build. Using Subversion you can easily backout a bad update.
Probably like many people I have forgotten how to use svn and the delights of git (or bzr/mercurial) are just too tempting.
To import svn into git you use something like:
git-svn clone -A ./git.authors --stdlayout svn://wherever
This will give you a two way tracking branch to svn, whilst allowing you to run a forked version easily locally. Obviously personal preference, but I find git massively easier to stay on top of watching diffs between versions and figuring out what changed between versions. Much easier also to have a private branch which perhaps deviates slightly from the master and includes your own personal fixes, etc.
(You can ommit the -A param if you don't want to map svn logins to email addresses)
Good luck
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