Hello. I have some comments on moving spam to Spam folder buttons
feature. I agree that such a feature would be a good addition to the
source, so I would suggest expanding your new feature like this:
1) there is should be on/off switch in config file for this feature;
2) there are should be mail folder names to move spam/non-spam to in
the config file (not hard coded but customizable);
3) there is should be mail forwarding feature for spam emails. There
are might be 2 config variables which contain email address for
spam/non-spam messages to be forwarded to for retraining. This
forwarder must NOT modify message body and headers. If these config
variables are empty so no forwarding would be done only moving email
to the folder after pressing corresponding button.
I can explain why I think that 3) note is so critical. It's ok to use
retraining scripts for all found e-mails in all mailboxes when you
have 10-100 users, but if your user count reaches 100k-1m your server
simply will die parsing such amount of data (millions of e-mails). In
this case mail forwarding is used for retraining, but current
Roundcube implementation doesn't allow taking full advantage of this
approach because it's deleting original header from the forwarded
e-mail which contain anti-spam signatures. We can store these
signatures in the mail body but I'm deadly against disturbing user's
correspondence with any additional "junk" not related to the mail
content.
This is my opinion how it should look, please fill free to comment
and suggest improvements.
Regards, Andris
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Marcelo Salhab Brogliato
Date: Oct 27, 2007 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [RCD] Patch for new features
To: till
Hello till,
I don't have svn installed in the shell that I'm working on.. but I
already
sent an email asking for instalation!
Soon I'll send my first patch :))
About the last feature that I sad:
Let's get a situation: you are on the compose page writing some
email.. so
you wan't to see the address book to add more recipients.
When you click Address Book, you "lost" your email (you can save in
the
draft)...
Does you guys have a patch to solve this?
Thanks for your help
Salhab
On 10/27/07, till wrote:
Hi Salhab,
no problem, but please CC the list, so others learn from this. :)
Basically the best way is the following:
1) Get latest code from SVN (trunk)
2) Migrate all your changes in there, test
3) Create patches using "svn diff > feature.patch"
Till
On 10/27/07, Marcelo Salhab Brogliato wrote:
Hi Till,
that's my first contribution to open source projects... I'm
completelly
a
newbie! :))
How can I create a patch? I have no idea...
I think it isn't just attaching the files that I changed..
Maybe a CHANGELIST? Or a little tutorial with the codes and where
they
should be inserted?
What do you mean by "configurable"? The name of the folders are fixed
by
now.. but a little
change in the source make it user-defined :)
Thanks for your answer.
Salhab
On 10/27/07, till wrote:
Hi Salhab,
On 10/27/07, Marcelo Salhab Brogliato < msbrogli(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi to everyone,
I'm new to the list and working on RoundCube.. but I changed him a
little to
satisfy my needs.
I implemented 3 features that you can check at:
http://www.vialink.com.br/webmail4/
email: msbrogli2(a)vialink.com.br
password: 123456
Essentially, it is:
* a checkbox at the left... to make the life of the ones who aren't
familiarized with AJAX (in my case, my customers) easier...
so, they can easily select more than a message..
I thought there were discussions already and I don't think this will
make its way into the source. The reason is - we aim to provide a
desktop-like look and feel.I don't see checkboxes in Outlook, Eudora,
Thunderbird or kMail.
* a droplist to move selected messages between the folders
* 2 buttons called SPAM and NO-SPAM.. they move the message to the
folders
Spam and No-Spam... but why?
because I developed a script to periodically check that folders
and
train
spamassassin to work better...
Not a bad idea. Are the folders configurable? (I obviously haven't
check your patch yet, because there was none attached. ;-)).
now I'm working on a preview window in the list page... like
Outlook..
just
click the message and see the content..
a double click maximize the message...
I think a preview pane is already included.
and my last modification (for now) will be a way to throw the
compose
page
add emails from contact list..
Not sure I understand.
In general, if you want to provide a patch, make sure to open tickets
on our trac (0) and make sure to provide one patch per issue/feature
-
not a giant patch.
sorry about my english... if i'm not clear, please ask!
Thanks for your work! Looking forward to your thoughts!
Till
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Hello. I agree, we can do like this, but physically it will be the same
action but within another mail's body. In this case if we'll send all
mail's within 1 mail's body we'll minimize load on the mail server but
it's harder to code. It's on the author which approach to choose.
Regards, Andris
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 12:00 -0700, dev-request(a)lists.roundcube.net
wrote:
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:06:07 +0100
> From: "Michael Tobler" <TheTrueBorg(a)gmx.de>
> Subject: Re: [RCD] Patch for new features
> To: dev(a)lists.roundcube.net
> Message-ID: <20071031150607.294740(a)gmx.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi
>
> I have an other suggestion for point 3)
> Why not simply mark all Spam email, click a button and forward them as
> attachment (no header loss) to an address (like spam(a)example.com)
> where sa-learn or some other scripts is run only over all attachments?
>
> In this way we do not need a special Forward, but just a button spam.
> After forwarding all marked mails can be moved to the local Junk
> folder.
>
> Best,
> Michael
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Marcelo Salhab Brogliato <msbrogli(a)gmail.com>
Date: Oct 27, 2007 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [RCD] Patch for new features
To: till <klimpong(a)gmail.com>
Hello till,
I don't have svn installed in the shell that I'm working on.. but I already
sent an email asking for instalation!
Soon I'll send my first patch :))
About the last feature that I sad:
Let's get a situation: you are on the compose page writing some email.. so
you wan't to see the address book to add more recipients.
When you click Address Book, you "lost" your email (you can save in the
draft)...
Does you guys have a patch to solve this?
Thanks for your help
Salhab
On 10/27/07, till <klimpong(a)gmail.com > wrote:
>
> Hi Salhab,
>
> no problem, but please CC the list, so others learn from this. :)
>
> Basically the best way is the following:
>
> 1) Get latest code from SVN (trunk)
> 2) Migrate all your changes in there, test
> 3) Create patches using "svn diff > feature.patch"
>
> Till
>
> On 10/27/07, Marcelo Salhab Brogliato <msbrogli(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Till,
> >
> > that's my first contribution to open source projects... I'm completelly
> a
> > newbie! :))
> > How can I create a patch? I have no idea...
> > I think it isn't just attaching the files that I changed..
> > Maybe a CHANGELIST? Or a little tutorial with the codes and where they
> > should be inserted?
> >
> > What do you mean by "configurable"? The name of the folders are fixed by
> > now.. but a little
> > change in the source make it user-defined :)
> >
> > Thanks for your answer.
> > Salhab
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/27/07, till <klimpong(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Salhab,
> > >
> > > On 10/27/07, Marcelo Salhab Brogliato < msbrogli(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi to everyone,
> > > > I'm new to the list and working on RoundCube.. but I changed him a
> > little to
> > > > satisfy my needs.
> > > > I implemented 3 features that you can check at:
> > > > http://www.vialink.com.br/webmail4/
> > > > email: msbrogli2(a)vialink.com.br
> > > > password: 123456
> > > >
> > > > Essentially, it is:
> > > > * a checkbox at the left... to make the life of the ones who aren't
> > > > familiarized with AJAX (in my case, my customers) easier...
> > > > so, they can easily select more than a message..
> > >
> > > I thought there were discussions already and I don't think this will
> > > make its way into the source. The reason is - we aim to provide a
> > > desktop-like look and feel.I don't see checkboxes in Outlook, Eudora,
> > > Thunderbird or kMail.
> > >
> > > > * a droplist to move selected messages between the folders
> > > > * 2 buttons called SPAM and NO-SPAM.. they move the message to the
> > folders
> > > > Spam and No-Spam... but why?
> > > > because I developed a script to periodically check that folders
> and
> > train
> > > > spamassassin to work better...
> > >
> > > Not a bad idea. Are the folders configurable? (I obviously haven't
> > > check your patch yet, because there was none attached. ;-)).
> > >
> > > > now I'm working on a preview window in the list page... like
> Outlook..
> > just
> > > > click the message and see the content..
> > > > a double click maximize the message...
> > >
> > > I think a preview pane is already included.
> > >
> > > > and my last modification (for now) will be a way to throw the
> compose
> > page
> > > > add emails from contact list..
> > >
> > > Not sure I understand.
> > >
> > > In general, if you want to provide a patch, make sure to open tickets
> > > on our trac (0) and make sure to provide one patch per issue/feature -
>
> > > not a giant patch.
> > >
> > >
> > > > sorry about my english... if i'm not clear, please ask!
> > > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for your work! Looking forward to your thoughts!
> > >
> > > Till
>
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As I pointed earlier the best solution would be to use a separate .css file the RTL language(s), which includes Arabic, Hebrew, Persian, Urdu and maybe others.
- Ossama
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From: Robin Elfrink <elfrink(a)introweb.nl>
To: RoundCube Development Mailing List <dev(a)lists.roundcube.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:43:04 PM
Subject: Re: [RCD] Right-to-Left Layout
Hi all,
Attached is my first idea of how to implement right-to-left layouts. My
native language is left-to-right, so I cannot help develop this
further.
Work is needed on image stuff as well. I haven't investigated, but
probably most image-problems with rtl languages come from background
images that should be moved to the other side. Maybe an include of a
'rtl.css' that overrides background settings will do?
Robin
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I think it is a design decision and shouldn't be done by me, but the
RoundCube designers.
Anyway I searched about implementing support of RTL languages in web
applications, especially PHP. Here are a few useful links:
RTL support in WordPress 2.1:
http://boren.nu/archives/2007/01/07/rtl-support-in-wordpress-21/
RTL in HTML, XHTML, CSS2, CSS3:
http://www.i18nguy.com/markup/right-to-left.html
Language information and text direction (part of HTML 4.01
specification): http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/dirlang.html
I think this is the simplest idea:
Set a global variable in a locale-dependent file which shows this locale is
RTL. Then use it wherever a 'dir="RTL"' attribute is needed.
Anyway it is up to designers to decide upon this.
On 10/8/07, Thomas Bruederli <roundcube(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mohammad Ebrahim Mohammadi Panah wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I got the latest code from Subversion and tested it to see how it looks
> > in Persian. RoundCube seems to have no support for right-to-left
> > languages such as Persian and Arabic. It didn't change the layout to
> > right-to-left when I chose Persian or Arabic. Please correct me if I'm
> > wrong.
> > Is there any plan to implement it?
> >
> Somebody once announced to implement this but I've never heard again from
> that person. This has to be done by somebody who is familiar with
> right-to-left websites and the Persian or Arabic language. All of your
> developers are either American or European and have no idea about RTL
> websites.
>
> You are very welcome to contribute the changes that are necessary for
> this.
>
> Regards,
> ~Thomas
>
--
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If you want to quickly test using RTL and changing the page direction, you can right-click the RC window (in FireFox) and choose "Switch Page Direction" to see how it looks. The perfect solution IMHO would be:
1. Use a common.css file that defined the main stuff common to all languages or maybe including the whole thing.
2. Use a special .css file for RTL languages which would overwrite what is needed, like (align, float, padding-left, margin-left... etc) and change them as appropriate.
With little change we can also allow the user to choose display the folders left, right or left, when the page's direction is switched as maybe just like an additional feature.
Just my 2c
- Ossama
----- Original Message ----
From: till <klimpong(a)gmail.com>
To: Mohammad Ebrahim Mohammadi Panah <mebrahim(a)gmail.com>
Cc: RoundCube Development Mailing List <dev(a)lists.roundcube.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 5:09:44 PM
Subject: Re: [RCD] Right-to-Left Layout
On 10/27/07, Mohammad Ebrahim Mohammadi Panah <mebrahim(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> I think it is a design decision and shouldn't be done by me, but the
> RoundCube designers.
What Thomas was suggesting is - neither of us uses a RTL language. So
demand and interest are next to 0 right now. So unless you come
forward with a patch or find someone who is interested in contributing
this, it WILL NOT get done. :)
> Anyway I searched about implementing support of RTL languages in web
> applications, especially PHP. Here are a few useful links:
>
> RTL support in WordPress 2.1:
> http://boren.nu/archives/2007/01/07/rtl-support-in-wordpress-21/
> RTL in HTML, XHTML, CSS2, CSS3:
> http://www.i18nguy.com/markup/right-to-left.html
> Language information and text direction (part of HTML 4.01
specification):
> http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/dirlang.html
>
> I think this is the simplest idea:
> Set a global variable in a locale-dependent file which shows this
locale is
> RTL. Then use it wherever a 'dir="RTL"' attribute is needed.
> Anyway it is up to designers to decide upon this.
Can you summarize this? Do we just need to adjust the CSS for this to
work,or what's the catch? (I read the wordpress-related post but it
didn't say.)
If you need to contribute language files, you could go ahead as well.
Requires next to zero programming skills.
http://translator.roundcube.net/
Till
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Let me just forward this to the list so maybe someone else can pick up.
This could be done pretty fast then. I don't think we have many images
with text anyway.
I am thinking that instead of folders for LTR, this could be either a
seperate default skin. Less complex this way, etc.. Feedback? Ideas?
On 10/27/07, NetOne - Doichin Dokov <root(a)net1.cc> wrote:
> till ??????:
> > Can you summarize this? Do we just need to adjust the CSS for this to
> > work,or what's the catch? (I read the wordpress-related post but it
> > didn't say.)
> >
> Besides CSS, some images also will need to be mirrored horizontally, so
> basically there will be LTR and RTL folders for images, if this should
> get done. I was recently looking into a clients side using Joomla, and
> was wondering what those two LTR and RTL folders are.
>
>
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Hi Salhab,
no problem, but please CC the list, so others learn from this. :)
Basically the best way is the following:
1) Get latest code from SVN (trunk)
2) Migrate all your changes in there, test
3) Create patches using "svn diff > feature.patch"
Till
On 10/27/07, Marcelo Salhab Brogliato <msbrogli(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Till,
>
> that's my first contribution to open source projects... I'm completelly a
> newbie! :))
> How can I create a patch? I have no idea...
> I think it isn't just attaching the files that I changed..
> Maybe a CHANGELIST? Or a little tutorial with the codes and where they
> should be inserted?
>
> What do you mean by "configurable"? The name of the folders are fixed by
> now.. but a little
> change in the source make it user-defined :)
>
> Thanks for your answer.
> Salhab
>
>
>
> On 10/27/07, till <klimpong(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Salhab,
> >
> > On 10/27/07, Marcelo Salhab Brogliato <msbrogli(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi to everyone,
> > > I'm new to the list and working on RoundCube.. but I changed him a
> little to
> > > satisfy my needs.
> > > I implemented 3 features that you can check at:
> > > http://www.vialink.com.br/webmail4/
> > > email: msbrogli2(a)vialink.com.br
> > > password: 123456
> > >
> > > Essentially, it is:
> > > * a checkbox at the left... to make the life of the ones who aren't
> > > familiarized with AJAX (in my case, my customers) easier...
> > > so, they can easily select more than a message..
> >
> > I thought there were discussions already and I don't think this will
> > make its way into the source. The reason is - we aim to provide a
> > desktop-like look and feel.I don't see checkboxes in Outlook, Eudora,
> > Thunderbird or kMail.
> >
> > > * a droplist to move selected messages between the folders
> > > * 2 buttons called SPAM and NO-SPAM.. they move the message to the
> folders
> > > Spam and No-Spam... but why?
> > > because I developed a script to periodically check that folders and
> train
> > > spamassassin to work better...
> >
> > Not a bad idea. Are the folders configurable? (I obviously haven't
> > check your patch yet, because there was none attached. ;-)).
> >
> > > now I'm working on a preview window in the list page... like Outlook..
> just
> > > click the message and see the content..
> > > a double click maximize the message...
> >
> > I think a preview pane is already included.
> >
> > > and my last modification (for now) will be a way to throw the compose
> page
> > > add emails from contact list..
> >
> > Not sure I understand.
> >
> > In general, if you want to provide a patch, make sure to open tickets
> > on our trac (0) and make sure to provide one patch per issue/feature -
> > not a giant patch.
> >
> >
> > > sorry about my english... if i'm not clear, please ask!
> > >
> >
> > Thanks for your work! Looking forward to your thoughts!
> >
> > Till
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Hi to everyone,
I'm new to the list and working on RoundCube.. but I changed him a little to
satisfy my needs.
I implemented 3 features that you can check at:
http://www.vialink.com.br/webmail4/
email: msbrogli2(a)vialink.com.br
password: 123456
Essentially, it is:
* a checkbox at the left... to make the life of the ones who aren't
familiarized with AJAX (in my case, my customers) easier...
so, they can easily select more than a message..
* a droplist to move selected messages between the folders
* 2 buttons called SPAM and NO-SPAM.. they move the message to the folders
Spam and No-Spam... but why?
because I developed a script to periodically check that folders and train
spamassassin to work better...
now I'm working on a preview window in the list page... like Outlook.. just
click the message and see the content..
a double click maximize the message...
and my last modification (for now) will be a way to throw the compose page
add emails from contact list..
sorry about my english... if i'm not clear, please ask!
Salhab
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