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Updated Turkish Translation
by muhammet＠muhammetkara.com 02 Oct '07

02 Oct '07

Hi, I have updated Turkish translation: http://trac.roundcube.net/trac.cgi/ticket/1484582 Cheers, Muhammet Kara -- http://www.muhammetkara.com _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Feedback for message deletion
by anDY 27 Sep '07

27 Sep '07

Hi there, I've just tested RoundCube, and feel that's great, because simply is the best. After used some hours, I have some suggestions and a bug want to report. Suggestions: 1. After deleted a message, wish it will select next message by auto for easy deletion by keyboard. (Because if every time need to use mouse click maybe too slow.?) Bugs? 1. When loading the list of messages, the icon background always in gray, and change to white. The row height also changing on that moment. Thanks for your great tools. Best regards, anDY _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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First patch for filters !
by Maximilien Cuony 27 Sep '07

27 Sep '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi ! Here is my first patch for my filter's system. I separate my filter system (named mc_filters) from the filter's interface. In lib/Filters are the different classes for filter's system (for the moment only mc_filters and the base class).Filter's system used are stored in the main.inc.php. So.. I'm open to all your remarks, like horribles English's mistakes ;). The code is a bit ugly for the moment (I try to not edit your base files and the CSS so I re-use for ex. the classes for another pages for settings) ^^, but I will correct this later. All is based on the revision 740 of the trunk. What do you think about it ? What I have to change ? Regards, -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org iD8DBQFG6rMsjKKs5/FTCjURAobAAJ9s4vbrbevV4na9GaUv8evfgwagjwCgxr6H zr83rNB+tT4wA9+bhpwDhHg= =5So1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ( o _ Maximilien Cuony [The glu] / / \ Mon Blog : http://theglu.tuxfamily.org V_ /_ www.ubuntu-fr.org www.getfirefox.com Ce mail est signé numériquement avec FireGPG. Clé publique : http://theglu.tuxfamily.org/public/cle.pgp --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- The following attachments have been detached and are available for viewing. http://detached.gigo.com/rc/6C/pgpRjvEb/filters.patch Only click these links if you trust the sender, as well as this message. --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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#1267231 Folder hierarchy collapsing
by Robin Elfrink 26 Sep '07

26 Sep '07

Hi, Folder collapsing in the main screen (feature request #1267231). Works in Firefox and Opera. Works but looks like sh*t in Explorer 7 and Safari 3. Looks like sh*t in Safari 2. So more work is needed on the CSS part. Not-working in Safari 2 probably has to do with CSS. List of collapsed folders is stored in a cookie. Maybe the database is a better place? Robin --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- The following attachments have been detached and are available for viewing. http://detached.gigo.com/rc/WN/qV3HR70y/_1267231.20070925130.patch http://detached.gigo.com/rc/WN/qV3HR70y/_1267231.folder-minu.png http://detached.gigo.com/rc/WN/qV3HR70y/_1267231.folder-plus.png Only click these links if you trust the sender, as well as this message. --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Folder management drag/drop
by Robin Elfrink 26 Sep '07

26 Sep '07

Hi, I finished folder drag/drop. Enables drag/dropping of folders onto a new parent folder, or to the root of the tree if dropped onto one of the 'protected' folders. In the process I fixed sort_subscription_list(). Not that anybody ever noticed it was broken, but still. Comments please, and tests on different browsers on different platforms. Firefox on win32 works fine, no need to test that :) Robin --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- The following attachments have been detached and are available for viewing. http://detached.gigo.com/rc/1j/DANjXG8A/folder-dragdrop.2007.patch Only click these links if you trust the sender, as well as this message. --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Updated Polish translation
by Janusz Zamecki 26 Sep '07

26 Sep '07

Hello, I've updated Polish translation ('movingmessage' and 'movemessagetotrash' translated). Best regards, Janusz --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- The following attachments have been detached and are available for viewing. http://detached.gigo.com/rc/En/smPv68hE/polish20070925.zip Only click these links if you trust the sender, as well as this message. --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Translated Thai language
by admin＠modoeye.com 26 Sep '07

26 Sep '07

I just complete translated Thai language please see the attachment. I also edit index.inc in "program/localization" change "th" to "th_TH" Regards, Wiraphan Treeratphan --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- The following attachments have been detached and are available for viewing. http://detached.gigo.com/rc/Gf/XWMqcJCC/th_TH.zip Only click these links if you trust the sender, as well as this message. --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Shared folders (Feature request #1403507)
by Robin Elfrink 25 Sep '07

25 Sep '07

Hi, Is anybody working on support for shared folders? If not I volunteer to try and implement them. It doesn't seem too hard, just a lot of work. Especially a number of changes in the IlohaMail IMAP library. Robin PS. IlohaMail development seems to be dead, no CVS commits for over 2 years. Does anybody have more info about that? _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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control-click bug in IE7
by Joel Clermont 24 Sep '07

24 Sep '07

I am cutting and pasting the reply I got from Microsoft today. They definitely acknowledge it as a bug, but they seem to be implying it is something that they may or may not fix. Please read over his reply and give me any direction you can on how to proceed. I already replied and told him that neither "workaround" he lists is valid for us. Based on previous discussions, it sounds like roundcube intends to maintain a real <a> tag pointing to a real URL. Hi Joel, The DIV case is really a different scenario. It does not have any special meaning when Ctrl + Click so that should be consistent with what you see in IE6. IE7 added a special case for Anchor tag handling when Ctrl + Click. I am currently working on this issue with my escalation engineer, Shahinur. You raise a valid point about the onclick event should be fired for Ctrl + Click regardless of which window the navigation happens in. At this point this does look like a bug in IE7. I don’t see any good workaround for this problem. There are a few ideas that that you may have already knew or touched on at some point: 1) Try avoid using the Anchor tag, you can use other elements like DIV (you already knew) or SPAN tag and still mimic the Anchor tag appearance. Some thing like this: <span style="text-decoration: underline; cursor:hand; color:blue" onclick="aFunction()" > click this "link" </span>. 2) It seems that if the Anchor tag does not have a valid href URL attribute. If the href attribute is set to “” (empty string) or “#” or even non-existant then things are working as expected. Below is an example of the href missing: If these workarounds do not work for you, we can request a hotfix from the product team. Keep in mind that there is always a chance that the hotfix request can be rejected. If you diecide to pursue this route, I would need to have a Business Impact statement from you addressing the following questions. Once I have the Business Impact Statement, I can file a formal hotfix request to the product team: 1. Business Impact - How does this bug affect your business - Why are current workarounds, if any, unacceptable 2. Financial Impact (include how it was calculated) - What is the financial impact of the bug - What is the financial impact of the best workaround, if any 3. Problem's frequency and probability? 4. Number of companies impacted 5. Number of corporate desktops and servers impacted 6. Number of consumer desktops (ie. home users) impacted 7. What IE platform is the hot fix needed? - IE 6.0 sp2 on XP SP2 - IE 6.0 on Windows 2003 Server - IE 6.0 on Windows 2003 Server SP1 - IE 7.0 on Vista - IE 7.0 on XP SP2 - IE 7.0 on Windows 2003 Server SP1 9. What type of hot fix package do you need? QFE – This package takes about 1-2 months to release and has a strict acceptance criteria. It is only distributed to customers by contacting Microsoft Support referencing a KB article. It is also redistributable only within a corporation (but not to the corporation’s customers). The fix is usually enabled by setting a specific registry key on the machine. GDR – This package takes about 3-6 months to release and is subjected to more testing and an even higher acceptance criteria. It is distributed to customers by downloading it from a public Microsoft link. This package is normally not available if a QFE meets your needs. 8. What languages (English, Chineses,...) are needed? Joel Clermont joel(a)orionweb.net 262-377-9930 _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Re: [RCD] control-click bug in IE7
by Joel Clermont 23 Sep '07

23 Sep '07

You may not need to after all. Someone proposed a workaround that actually works! But if you wanted to you can call Microsoft and open a formal support ticket like I did. I suppose the more complaints they get, the better. Joel Clermont joel(a)orionweb.net 262-377-9930 On Sep 23, 2007, at 5:37 PM, Martin Kealey wrote: > We have 10^N (N>5) customers depending on RoundCube, so this is a > real issue for us. > > Where do we sign up to complain? > > -Martin > -- > Martin D Kealey, ihüg engineering > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Joel Clermont [mailto:joel@orionweb.net] >> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 12:45 AM >> To: Michael Büker >> Cc: dev(a)lists.roundcube.net >> Subject: Re: [RCD] control-click bug in IE7 >> >> I had a long talk with this support rep on the phone the >> other day. He said that a number of people (though he >> wouldn't tell me how many) have filed a bug notice on this >> very issue. Internally, the bug is graded as "fix in next >> release", which means IE 8. That is probably at least 3 years >> off, and likely longer. He said that no one has yet opened a >> formal support ticket on this issue. We are the first. It's a >> shame we have to play their game, but the only way to get >> your bug's priority bumped is to make a business impact case. >> Then again, there is no guarantee that they will escalate the >> bug even with this document. And even if they do escalate it, >> the best case time frame for a generally deployed fix is 3 - >> 6 months. Despite this, I think it is still worth submitting >> the document and getting the process started. >> >> In the meantime, I wanted to propose an alternate solution. >> As I understand it, making the subject text an <A> tag was to >> accommodate a small subset of users. Could we possibly create >> a new setting in the personal settings area where the >> individual user could toggle whether they want this as an <A> >> tag or not? Ideally, the server admin could set a default >> value and then let users override it. I think this might be >> the best short term solution until MS fixes the real bug, if >> they ever do. >> >> What does everyone think? Also, could someone take a few >> minutes and explain to me again the full reason for the <A> >> tag with a real href? Was it just accessibility reasons? >> >> Joel Clermont >> joel(a)orionweb.net <mailto:joel@orionweb.net> >> 262-377-9930 >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 22, 2007, at 5:50 AM, Michael Büker wrote: >> >> >> On Friday 21 September 2007, Joel Clermont wrote: >> >> If these workarounds do not work for you, we >> can request a hotfix >> from the product team. Keep in mind that there >> is always a chance >> that the hotfix request can be rejected. If >> you diecide to pursue >> this route, I would need to have a Business >> Impact statement from you >> addressing the following questions. Once I >> have the Business Impact >> Statement, I can file a formal hotfix request >> to the product team: >> >> <we'll only fix this if you are important enough> >> >> >> I can't believe this! You've proven to them it's a >> nonstandard behaviour, it >> breaks actions that are expected, they even admitted >> it's a _bug_, and they >> tell you to get down on your knees and beg so they >> _might_ fix it, but only >> if they deem you important enough, _and_ there's enough >> money involved! >> >> How much would I like to put a fat notice on the >> roundcube homepage >> saying "IE7 broken!", we don't support it period. >> >> What a bunch of arrogant, superbureaocratic, incapable assholes! >> >> Sorry, I had to let this steam off ;) >> >> ~Mik >> >> -- >> Heisenberg gets stopped by a cop for speeding. >> "Do you have any idea how fast you were going?", asks the cop. >> "No. But I know exactly where I am!" >> _______________________________________________ >> List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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