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Re: why don't you made regular releases?
by mailist＠sokol.dynalias.net 26 Jul '07

26 Jul '07

Hi Thomas, I'm sorry to hear your reasons for handing your leadership over to someone else. Roundcube is so far a great app and I use it often. Whether I had sufficient webprogrammer skills I would help to develop roundcube. But for now it's for me an insuperable challenge that would waste a lot of time even before I can commit my first lines of code. And I try to commit a patch some day:-) I hope that roundcube will be develop any longer! Greetz On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:06:50 +0200, "Thomas Bruederli" <roundcube(a)gmail.com> wrote: > There's one simple answer to this question: It just because nobody > really works on the code. When did you see the last commit that closed > a bug? > > Second: releasing means testing, cleaning up, packaging, distributing, > writing an announcement, etc. I don't want to do all that stuff every > time I change two lines of code. But this is not the point. The main > reason why we're still stuck with 0.1-rc1 is that there are no active > developers. Unfortunately I hardly have time to work on the project > and the few minutes that are left, I mostly spend with writing answers > to (stupid) requests. > > I don't say it's all the other's fault. I seriously underestimated the > meaning of starting an open source project. It's far more work than > just writing some lines of code and copy them on a server. > > Sorry for the bad "service" and the disappointing growth of the > project but I had to shift my priorities away from RoundCube and this > situation will remain for the next two years :-( > > In other words: everybody is welcome to take over the project lead and > release more often. > > ~Thomas > > > 2007/7/22, Farkas Levente <lfarkas(a)bppiac.hu>: >> hi, >> why don't roundcube has regular release like 0.1, 0.2 etc? everybody >> know it's a beta software and will care according to that. but even in >> that case it's 0.1rc1 since almost a half a year now! wouldn't it be >> better to make more regular release, users can test it and comment on >> it. until it's reach the 1.0 version everybody know it's beta software >> and use only care. but even if the development moving it seems to >> standing. as one of the lesson to learn from opensource project "release >> early". >> just my 2c. >> >> -- >> Levente "Si vis pacem para bellum!" >> >> >> _______________________________________________ RoundCube Dev mailing list Dev(a)lists.roundcube.net http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev

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Re: About RoundCube 0.1-rc1 pure GPL
by till 26 Jul '07

26 Jul '07

On 7/24/07, Romain Beauxis <toots(a)rastageeks.org> wrote: > Le Tuesday 24 July 2007 10:49:21 Thomas Bruederli, vous avez écrit: > > des.inc is not included in the pure GPL package. It uses mcrypt as > > suggested in the ticket you mentioned. Please, check it! > > Hi Thomas ! > > Nice to see you're considering this issue ! > > New package just uploaded to debian ! Thanks, Roman! :) Till _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Folder management
by Robin Elfrink 26 Jul '07

26 Jul '07

Just for your information: I'm working on a patch to select a parent folder when creating a new one, plus drag/dropping folders from one to another parent. It's not very close to being finished, but this is what I needed the changes in revision 651 for. Robin _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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trac is down
by Robin Elfrink 26 Jul '07

26 Jul '07

Hi, Can anybody kick trac? It's down :( Robin _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Update re: round cube lists.
by Jason Fesler 24 Jul '07

24 Jul '07

Based on feedback, I am enabling subject tagging. Subjects will be prefixed by [RCD] or [RCU]. This is a fairly religious issue for some folks; but the those that need/want it tagged _far_ outweighed any other response I got. I'm keeping the tag short, however, to try and minimize the effects for those that don't like subject tagging. I wish this were a per user setting, but .. it isn't. List signatures are still enabled but shorter. I find them neccesary to help keep list management easier. This also helps reduce the case of people getting tired of a list and just marking it as spam (Which can have effects further than they intended). Hopefully with a technical audience such as we have here, that won't happen, but.. Enforcement that posters be subscribed is now enabled. Most of the other antispam things I do at gigo.com, are disabled for the lists. If SpamAssassin still thinks "spam" the message might get deferred for moderator review. Lastly, some folks are doing sender verification. Because some folks still have DNS cached pointing to Bob's, and his would not verify the sender address I'm using, some folks are deferring (good) or rejecting (not so good) the mail. I'll contact those people in a day or so, recommending they clear their sender validation cache and/or check their sender verification cache settings. Unless anything else comes up, I'll move back to more of a lurker role. If anything comes up, feel free to contact me, email or jabber. -- Jason Fesler, email/jabber <jfesler(a)gigo.com> resume: http://jfesler.com "Give a man fire, and he'll be warm for a day; set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." _______________________________________________ List info: http://lists.roundcube.net/dev/

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Welcome! (resent)
by Jason Fesler 24 Jul '07

24 Jul '07

bob(a)db.org said: >the time has come to move the RoundCube mailing lists to their new home. Folks, I've made the changes needed to move the lists to the new home. There should be no interruption; Bob is running the list in parallel until DNS fully moves as far as the public DNS caches are concerned. A quick intro about me: I'm Jason Fesler, nobody particularly special. I've worked with mail and usenet for a very long time, including writing a gateway between uucp/smtp/nntp to/from FidoNet (yes, I have some gray hairs), and I've had a number of scars fighting spam to keep mail a relevant and viable medium for my users. I've been working in this medium since 1993. I'm reachable as jfesler(a)gigo.com (email, jabber). I'm also reachable as postmaster(a)lists.roundcube.net (not spam filtered). Changes for the lists.. For spam reasons, only people who are subscribed, can post. Sorry! This makes a *huge* difference on mailing list hosting, particularly for the moderators and list operator (me). You are more than welcome to subscribe more than once - and, if desired, set your options to "no mail" mode. Speaking of options, http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/users http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/announce Scroll to the bottom field, enter your email address, hit the "Unsubscribe or edit options" button. Your password, if you had one previously, is different now. The options page can mail you your new password. I have not yet earned your trust, so it would have been inappriate for Bob to send me whatever passwords you had. You are welcome to change your password (again, above urls). In case you forget the url - look at the bottom of any post. You'll find the url for that specific list. Other changes: Posting attachments - The attachments will be "detached" and replaced by a url; the attachments will be web accessible. Sending attachments can get expensive. This way, only those interested in seeing the picture will burn up bandwidth fetching it. Likewise, those NOT interested, don't have to download it. An example is in this post. Archives - http://lists.roundcube.net has links. The urls for old links will have changed - there was no way to reliably keep them identical. Anyone who clicks a link to the old urls will be taken to the top level page. The archives now have a search feature. It isn't fancy, but it does work (just simple ht://dig). Subject: [Round Cube..] tagging - this is unfortunately not settable per subscriber, only per list. I am interested in your feedback - mail me (jfesler(a)gigo.com) privately with your opinion. After enough feedback comes in I may change the list to include a tag. (Initial feedback was, that gmail doesn't allow filtering on headers, only subject). -- Jason Fesler, email/jabber <jfesler(a)gigo.com> resume: http://jfesler.com "Give a man fire, and he'll be warm for a day; set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- The following attachments have been detached and are available for viewing. http://detached.gigo.com/mm/GC/ZkQZKxrz/banner.gif Only click these links if you trust the sender, as well as this message. --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- _______________________________________________ RoundCube Dev mailing list Dev(a)lists.roundcube.net http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev

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[RoundCube Subject?] or not to Subject, that is the question.
by Jason Fesler 24 Jul '07

24 Jul '07

Bob's list software allowed users to have [RoundCube ..] prepended to the subject. So does mine, but Bob's is better in so far that this is a per-user setting. The software I am using, is .. global to all members on a given list. Given that: Please reply to me privately with which list(s) you're on and your opinion on whether to prepend the subject with [RoundCube ..] or not. Initial setting is off per common consensus of the moderators - but really, this is your list. I'll evaluate the replies I get, and, if appropriate, make the neccesary changes. Before you reply: Consider what your mail client can do for you. If you look at the headers in this message, you'll see something similiar to 'List-Id: RoundCube Users <users.lists.roundcube.net>' which could be one way to organize your mail. -jason new list operator for RC lists -- Jason Fesler, email/jabber <jfesler(a)gigo.com> resume: http://jfesler.com "Give a man fire, and he'll be warm for a day; set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." _______________________________________________ RoundCube Dev mailing list Dev(a)lists.roundcube.net http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev

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Welcome!
by Jason Fesler 24 Jul '07

24 Jul '07

bob(a)db.org said: >the time has come to move the RoundCube mailing lists to their new home. Folks, I've made the changes needed to move the lists to the new home. There should be no interruption; Bob is running the list in parallel until DNS fully moves as far as the public DNS caches are concerned. A quick intro about me: I'm Jason Fesler, nobody particularly special. I've worked with mail and usenet for a very long time, including writing a gateway between uucp/smtp/nntp to/from FidoNet (yes, I have some gray hairs), and I've had a number of scars fighting spam to keep mail a relevant and viable medium for my users. I've been working in this medium since 1993. I'm reachable as jfesler(a)gigo.com (email, jabber). I'm also reachable as postmaster(a)lists.roundcube.net (not spam filtered). Changes for the lists.. For spam reasons, only people who are subscribed, can post. Sorry! This makes a *huge* difference on mailing list hosting, particularly for the moderators and list operator (me). You are more than welcome to subscribe more than once - and, if desired, set your options to "no mail" mode. Speaking of options, http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/users http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/announce Scroll to the bottom field, enter your email address, hit the "Unsubscribe or edit options" button. Your password, if you had one previously, is different now. The options page can mail you your new password. I have not yet earned your trust, so it would have been inappriate for Bob to send me whatever passwords you had. You are welcome to change your password (again, above urls). In case you forget the url - look at the bottom of any post. You'll find the url for that specific list. Other changes: Posting attachments - The attachments will be "detached" and replaced by a url; the attachments will be web accessible. Sending attachments can get expensive. This way, only those interested in seeing the picture will burn up bandwidth fetching it. Likewise, those NOT interested, don't have to download it. An example is in this post. Archives - http://lists.roundcube.net has links. The urls for old links will have changed - there was no way to reliably keep them identical. Anyone who clicks a link to the old urls will be taken to the top level page. The archives now have a search feature. It isn't fancy, but it does work (just simple ht://dig). -- Jason Fesler, email/jabber <jfesler(a)gigo.com> resume: http://jfesler.com "Give a man fire, and he'll be warm for a day; set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- The following attachments have been detached and are available for viewing. http://detached.gigo.com/mm/X4/G1PCMh8e/banner.gif Only click these links if you trust the sender, as well as this message. --- 8< --- detachments --- 8< --- _______________________________________________ RoundCube Dev mailing list Dev(a)lists.roundcube.net http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev

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Test/ignore
by Jason Fesler 24 Jul '07

24 Jul '07

test/ignore -- Jason Fesler, email/jabber <jfesler(a)gigo.com> resume: http://jfesler.com "Give a man fire, and he'll be warm for a day; set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." _______________________________________________ RoundCube Dev mailing list Dev(a)lists.roundcube.net http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev

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by None 14 Jul '07

14 Jul '07

neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of notme(a)somedomain.com) Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:27:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <43692115.54fe8078.789a.31f9SMTPIN_ADDED(a)mx.gmail.com> Received: by mail.somedomain.com <http://mail.somedomain.com> (Postfix, from userid 48) =09id 55DA3128135; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 15:23:04 -0500 (EST) To: notme(a)gmail.com Subject: another roundcube MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 15:23:04 -0500

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