Hello all,
I know there are many calendar and contact plugins for Roundcube, some of them offering CalDAV and CardDAV client or server functionalities.
However, they not stable, not integrate well with mail functionalities or with the interface. Lets say presenting options to accept or refuse an invitation sent by email. I don't even mention support for the advanced features that some CalDAV and CardDAV servers are providing, for instance the excellent Davical.
Moreover, some of them are coming with their own CalDAV or CardDav server, which I think is non-sense. Roundcube is a webmail client. It does do only one thing, but does it well. It does not come with a mail server feature...
Is there any planning to add a nice and well integrated calendar feature on Roundcube? What about adding a CardDAV client for the address book as well. Using the LDAP address book in Roundcube is already great, it would be nice to have CardDAV integrated as well.
Thanks to consider this! I have plenty of users who are concerned with Google Mail lack of privacy, and don't even like its web interface.
Kind regards, André
On 26.09.2018 12:47, André Rodier wrote:
Is there any planning to add a nice and well integrated calendar feature on Roundcube? What about adding a CardDAV client for the address book as well. Using the LDAP address book in Roundcube is already great, it would be nice to have CardDAV integrated as well.
I don't have such plans. I think it will be better if I focus on supporting core features that we already have. Maybe multi-account support in the future, things like that, things that cannot really be implemented as plugins.
Calendaring, CardDAV, such features are not simple and require a lot of effort in implementation and support. We don't have resources to do this. And they can be implemented as plugins.
On 2018-09-26 12:26, A.L.E.C wrote:
On 26.09.2018 12:47, André Rodier wrote:
Is there any planning to add a nice and well integrated calendar feature on Roundcube? What about adding a CardDAV client for the address book as well. Using the LDAP address book in Roundcube is already great, it would be nice to have CardDAV integrated as well.
I don't have such plans. I think it will be better if I focus on supporting core features that we already have. Maybe multi-account support in the future, things like that, things that cannot really be implemented as plugins.
Calendaring, CardDAV, such features are not simple and require a lot of effort in implementation and support. We don't have resources to do this. And they can be implemented as plugins.
Thank you for your answer, and thanks for your huge work in involvement in this.
1 - Is everything ready in RoundCube, to allow a smooth and well integrated calendar and contact plugins using CalDAV and CardDAV ? 2 - Is there enough plug-in hooks and documentation and flexibility to allow this? For instance, is it possible to make sure a calendar invitation is displayed correctly, that the entry will be added in the calendar and a confirmation email sent, when I press "accept"? 3 - Is there a way to get free/busy times from the address books when organising an event?
More generally, is there any organised collaboration with the current plug-in developers to make this happen? Why I have the feeling that a lot of calendar plugins are regularly out-of-sync with the roundcube core?
If I want to add a calendar to my Debian server, I will end up using Sogo, which I don't find as convenient as RoundCube.
Kind regards, André
On 09/26/2018 02:44 PM, André Rodier wrote:
1 - Is everything ready in RoundCube, to allow a smooth and well integrated calendar and contact plugins using CalDAV and CardDAV ? 2 - Is there enough plug-in hooks and documentation and flexibility to allow this? For instance, is it possible to make sure a calendar invitation is displayed correctly, that the entry will be added in the calendar and a confirmation email sent, when I press "accept"? 3 - Is there a way to get free/busy times from the address books when organising an event?
I think there's everything what is needed. The fact that there are quite good existing plugins (like Kolab's Calendar) confirm that. If there's something missing we're open to add such functionality.
More generally, is there any organised collaboration with the current plug-in developers to make this happen? Why I have the feeling that a lot of calendar plugins are regularly out-of-sync with the roundcube core?
It's probably not caused by missing functionality of core but rather by some not backward compatible changes, or new features and lack of time to catch up with these on plugins' side. As for the collaboration, there's nothing really organized, other than the fact I and Thomas are also working on some external plugins and we're open to any plugin API extensions.
On 2018-09-26 14:21, A.L.E.C wrote:
On 09/26/2018 02:44 PM, André Rodier wrote:
1 - Is everything ready in RoundCube, to allow a smooth and well integrated calendar and contact plugins using CalDAV and CardDAV ? 2 - Is there enough plug-in hooks and documentation and flexibility to allow this? For instance, is it possible to make sure a calendar invitation is displayed correctly, that the entry will be added in the calendar and a confirmation email sent, when I press "accept"? 3 - Is there a way to get free/busy times from the address books when organising an event?
I think there's everything what is needed. The fact that there are quite good existing plugins (like Kolab's Calendar) confirm that. If there's something missing we're open to add such functionality.
Thank you, Kolab is the perfect example of wasted resources: It only works with Kolab groupware, where it could have been built in cooperation with other CalDAV / CardDAV providers.
More generally, is there any organised collaboration with the current plug-in developers to make this happen? Why I have the feeling that a lot of calendar plugins are regularly out-of-sync with the roundcube core?
It's probably not caused by missing functionality of core but rather by some not backward compatible changes, or new features and lack of time to catch up with these on plugins' side. As for the collaboration, there's nothing really organized, other than the fact I and Thomas are also working on some external plugins and we're open to any plugin API extensions.
Thank you, André
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 at 15:46, André Rodier andre@rodier.me wrote:
On 2018-09-26 14:21, A.L.E.C wrote:
I think there's everything what is needed. The fact that there are quite good existing plugins (like Kolab's Calendar) confirm that. If there's something missing we're open to add such functionality.
Thank you, Kolab is the perfect example of wasted resources: It only works with Kolab groupware, where it could have been built in cooperation with other CalDAV / CardDAV providers.
FWIW: Kolab’s calendar plugin is built with an abstraction layer for the storage backend. This would perfectly allow for a CalDAV connector. I think there even are some forks around for that.
Certainly a better option than starting a new calendar plugin from scratch as you and alec have already pointed out: it’s not trivial.
Cheers, Thomas
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