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RE: 0.1-20051007 Comments/feedback
by Geoffrey McCaleb 08 Oct '05

08 Oct '05

Just to make sure the rest of the group got to see Mark's reply (see below). To add my own comment to Mark's reply: While I am by no means a javascript guru, I don't believe it is possible for javascript to affect the local PC. The cursor icon, is controlled by the core API of whatever OS you happen to be running (OSX, Windows Shell, KDE, etc). Web scripting, generally doesn't have access to that API (with the exception of ActiveX). I wonder if instead of changing the cursor, you could certainly have some help text appear to help guide the user to the correct action. Though, from a usability perspective, you are correct web users expect to single click to open mail or any other link. Requiring 3 clicks, without any noticable gain, seems confusing. My 2 cents. Geoffrey On 10/8/2005, "Mark Mackay - Orcon" <mark(a)orcon.net.nz> wrote: >I just wanted to clarify my comments about the message double-click: > >I like the double-click, it's just that I found that with IE6/Win when I >double-clicked on a subject, the line would highlight, then the word I >double-clicked on -- then wait 1-5 secs then the message would load (meaning >I often double-double-clicked, triple clicked, etc). > >Changing the cursor to an hourglass/watch would give the visual feedback >needed to let me stop clicking, however the highlighting of the word I >clicked over (rather than just the selected line) is a bit unexpected, >compared with a desktop app. Not sure if this is resolvable. > >-- > >OTH users of the web are used to single-clicking (although there are those >pesky double-clickers), so it's something to guide people into. By watching >our first test users I found most people expected to single-click and get a >preview pane. If this is in the pipeline as an optional UI element, then the >double-click to view the message on its own will make more sense. > >If not, or in any case, we're better to guide the users as to how to use it: >maybe just some help text is needed "double click a message to open it". >This could appear after a delay if someone just selected a message and did >nothing else maybe. > >-- > >I could be being a bit overzealous here. Most people figured it out quickly >enough, and I think the hourglass if that's easily doable will probably >solve it. > >Regards, >Mark Mackay. > >

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08 Oct '05

Hi, A couple of coworkers have large mailboxes with 3000 to 7000 mails. Hence it takes a while before the mailbox overview (first screen after logging in) is rendered. They thought Roundcube was hanging as Horde/IMP doesn't have that delay. I presume the difference is because Horde/IMP is depending on the 'imap' PHP extension while Roundcube just talks IMAP over the established socket connection to the imap-server. Can't Roundcube be configured to read the first 300 mails (or the first 4 pages) when logging in and read the other mails on demand, that is when the user uses the navigation in the top right. In the majority of the cases one doesn't need to see the other/older mail. Or maybe the other mails can be read in the background after the 'homepage' is loaded. This allows reading the new mail etc and will make Roundcube more snappier. Just my 2 cents. Jasper

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Roundcube 20051007 and loading times
by Raphael Reich 08 Oct '05

08 Oct '05

Hello list, yesterday I upgraded to Roundcube 20051007. The loading time has significantly increased for any action I tried. e.g. opening an email consisting of just one simple text line takes about 15 sec. I switched back to version 20050820 and Roundcube is working quickly as it used to before the upgrade. Has anyone discovered similar problems? Raphael

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Re: Re: Re: Message Source not configured properly?
by Geoffrey McCaleb 08 Oct '05

08 Oct '05

That was it! I can't believe I didn't think of that. Both the other webmail packages send mail directly....though I wonder why php mail() has that problem on my server. Oh well, thanks! Geoffrey On 10/7/2005, "Jon Wolf" <wolf(a)domojo.com> wrote: > >Perhaps the problem lies in your PHP mail() function. >Have you tried sending it through your mail server directly? >The options are in config/main.inc.php > >// use this host for sending mails. >// if left blank, the PHP mail() function is used >$rcmail_config['smtp_server'] = ''; > >// SMTP port (default is 25) >$rcmail_config['smtp_port'] = 25; > >// SMTP username (if required) >$rcmail_config['smtp_user'] = ''; > >// SMTP password (if required) >$rcmail_config['smtp_pass'] = ''; > >If you force sending through an SMTP server, does the problem persist? > >jw > >On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:59:13 -0100, "Geoffrey McCaleb" <geoffrey(a)tabasco.net> wrote: >> Hi Jon, >> Thanks for your note. But its not really a browser issue. The problem >> (for me at least) seems to be that the receiver of the mail gets the >> body and header scrambled. If I send a mail to myself, the display seems >> fine. >> >> Its a weird problem. I've got two other webmail packages on my server >> (IlohaMail & Horde) and they don't experience the same problem. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Geoffrey >> >> On 10/7/2005, "Jon Wolf" <wolf(a)domojo.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>I also upgraded to today's release and am not experiancing that problem >> in either of my browsers (Firefox 1.5 Beta 1; Opera 8.5). >>> >>>On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:24:28 -0100, "Geoffrey McCaleb" >> <geoffrey(a)tabasco.net> wrote: >>>> I've tried upgrading to the latest version and the problem still >> persists >>>> (was using 0.1-20050820, now on the build released today 0.1-20051007). >>>> >>>> Am I the only one getting this problem? Here is a screenshot if my >>>> description was too confusing. >>>> >>>> http://www.idiotabroad.com/pix/messagebody.png >>>> >>>> (while the above shows the problem in gmail, I get the same when >> sending >>>> to my work account which uses MS Outlook). >>>> >>>> Thanks everyone, >>>> >>>> Geoffrey >>>> >>>> On 10/7/2005, "Geoffrey McCaleb" <geoffrey(a)tabasco.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hi All, >>>>>First off, just wanted to say what a great mail package RoundCube is. >> Its >>>>>fully featured, looks great, and simply is an amazing package! >>>>> >>>>>Sadly, I have a problem that is keeping me from using it. When sending >>>>>mail it seems that the message body somehow gets mixed with the header >>>>>(or vice versa). >>>>> >>>>>I've tried sending mails to gmail, and my work account. In both cases, >>>>>the message source looks like so: >>>>> >>>>><snip> >>>>>From: Geoffrey McCaleb <geoffrey(a)tabasco.net> >>>>>Message-ID: <e991f295cfe46cb15888fc09062011fb@osiris> >>>>>X-Sender: geoffrey(a)tabasco.net >>>>>User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1a >>>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" >>>>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>> >>>>>Return-Path: geoffrey(a)tabasco.net >>>>>X-CTCH-ID: _C77A15DC-8C41-4BF6-87F4-09DB82AE628E_ >>>>>X-CTCH-RefID: 0001.0A090205.43464939.0029-A- >>>>>X-CTCH-Action: Ignore >>>>>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2005 10:15:25.0453 (UTC) >>>>>FILETIME=[08ABBBD0:01C5CB28] >>>>> >>>>>This is another test. >>>>></snip> >>>>> >>>>>The body of the mail should have just been: "This is another test". >>>>> >>>>>Any idea what the problem might be? >>>>> >>>>>Thanks! >>>>> >>>>>Geoffrey >>>>> >>>>> >>> >

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better results with new IMAPD (courier-imap4)
by Joshua Layne 08 Oct '05

08 Oct '05

Hi all, I just wanted to report that a newer IMAP server works WONDERS! I upgraded to courier-imap 4 from courier-imap 2.2 and the overall experience is much... zippier. if you are having problems with timeouts, your imap server may be the problem (IME) Also, if anyone is running against mac (tiger), I can walk them through the config process for courier imap 4 - took me a whilke anyway with the authlib stuff. regardless, I am excited by this performance increase - now I need to pull down the CVS version and put it up. is there anything that needs looking at? I am competent in PHP, not so competent in mail transfer and mail protocols, not competent in AJAX, though XML and javascript alone don\\\\\\\'t bother me, I\\\\\\\'ve just never mixed them. let me know if I can help. j.

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Re: Re: Message Source not configured properly?
by Geoffrey McCaleb 07 Oct '05

07 Oct '05

Hi Jon, Thanks for your note. But its not really a browser issue. The problem (for me at least) seems to be that the receiver of the mail gets the body and header scrambled. If I send a mail to myself, the display seems fine. Its a weird problem. I've got two other webmail packages on my server (IlohaMail & Horde) and they don't experience the same problem. Thanks! Geoffrey On 10/7/2005, "Jon Wolf" <wolf(a)domojo.com> wrote: > >I also upgraded to today's release and am not experiancing that problem in either of my browsers (Firefox 1.5 Beta 1; Opera 8.5). > >On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:24:28 -0100, "Geoffrey McCaleb" <geoffrey(a)tabasco.net> wrote: >> I've tried upgrading to the latest version and the problem still persists >> (was using 0.1-20050820, now on the build released today 0.1-20051007). >> >> Am I the only one getting this problem? Here is a screenshot if my >> description was too confusing. >> >> http://www.idiotabroad.com/pix/messagebody.png >> >> (while the above shows the problem in gmail, I get the same when sending >> to my work account which uses MS Outlook). >> >> Thanks everyone, >> >> Geoffrey >> >> On 10/7/2005, "Geoffrey McCaleb" <geoffrey(a)tabasco.net> wrote: >> >>>Hi All, >>>First off, just wanted to say what a great mail package RoundCube is. Its >>>fully featured, looks great, and simply is an amazing package! >>> >>>Sadly, I have a problem that is keeping me from using it. When sending >>>mail it seems that the message body somehow gets mixed with the header >>>(or vice versa). >>> >>>I've tried sending mails to gmail, and my work account. In both cases, >>>the message source looks like so: >>> >>><snip> >>>From: Geoffrey McCaleb <geoffrey(a)tabasco.net> >>>Message-ID: <e991f295cfe46cb15888fc09062011fb@osiris> >>>X-Sender: geoffrey(a)tabasco.net >>>User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1a >>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" >>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>> >>>Return-Path: geoffrey(a)tabasco.net >>>X-CTCH-ID: _C77A15DC-8C41-4BF6-87F4-09DB82AE628E_ >>>X-CTCH-RefID: 0001.0A090205.43464939.0029-A- >>>X-CTCH-Action: Ignore >>>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2005 10:15:25.0453 (UTC) >>>FILETIME=[08ABBBD0:01C5CB28] >>> >>>This is another test. >>></snip> >>> >>>The body of the mail should have just been: "This is another test". >>> >>>Any idea what the problem might be? >>> >>>Thanks! >>> >>>Geoffrey >>> >>> >

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Message Source not configured properly?
by Geoffrey McCaleb 07 Oct '05

07 Oct '05

Hi All, First off, just wanted to say what a great mail package RoundCube is. Its fully featured, looks great, and simply is an amazing package! Sadly, I have a problem that is keeping me from using it. When sending mail it seems that the message body somehow gets mixed with the header (or vice versa). I've tried sending mails to gmail, and my work account. In both cases, the message source looks like so: <snip> From: Geoffrey McCaleb <geoffrey(a)tabasco.net> Message-ID: <e991f295cfe46cb15888fc09062011fb@osiris> X-Sender: geoffrey(a)tabasco.net User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Re: RoundCube Webmail 0.1-20051007 released
by Jon Wolf 07 Oct '05

07 Oct '05

A few minor errors regarding the new release: In the upgrade instructions, no mention is made of replacing index.php (Roundcube did not work until I replaced it). The README file includes this amusing section: Installation: ------------- For detailed instructions on how to install SquirrelMail on your server, please refer to the INSTALL document in the same directory as this document. Also, if I am reading the code right, RoundCube now automatically checks for IMAPS support and utilizes it with out the code hack discussed in "Re: Using imaps instead of imap"; am I correct in this assumption? The progress is great! jw On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 17:50:13 +0200, Thomas Bruederli <roundcube(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello everybody. > > In the last couple of weeks a lot of improvements and bugfixes found > their way into this new release of the RoundCube webmailer. > > We added the PEAR::DB module to support more databases. This is > currently tested with MySQL and SQLite and also supports PostgreSQL. > Then the following new translations were added: French, Italian, > Spanish, Danish and Dutch. Thanks to all the translators for their > work! > > If you already use RoundCube webmail you'll not see many changes in > the front end because most of the improvements were made to the > backend. But it's recommended for all users to replace their > installation with the new release. > > Get the files directly from > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/roundcubemail/roundcube_webmail_0.1-2005… > or check out the latest CVS version. > > And here you can find the changelog and release notes: > http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=361839 > > Have fun! > Thomas

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Calendar Interface
by Noam Rathaus 07 Oct '05

07 Oct '05

Hi, I started working on a Calendar preview for RoundCube, as this is a major issue for web mail users - at least in my company - and current solutions don't offer any options to do (Squirrelmail for example). Three things: 1) I would like to hear about other's thoughts on this 2) I would like to hear about someone else's experience with parsing iCal in PHP (I have done work under Perl by using modules) 3) I would like to hear how such integration would be expected... I am planning on building a calendar view, not a single entry viewer for the items... i.e. you would see today/week/month's events -- Noam Rathaus CTO Beyond Security Ltd. http://www.beyondsecurity.com http://www.securiteam.com

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06 Oct '05

Hi, I installed roundcube 0.1-20050820 on a Gentoo Linux box. It went well, except one missing link to the config files for roundcube. The first time I tried to access roundcube I got: --- Warning: rcmail_startup(config/main.inc.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /var/www/localhost/htdocs/roundcube/program/include/main.inc on line 35 Warning: rcmail_startup(): Failed opening 'config/main.inc.php' for inclusion (include_path='/usr/lib/php/php:program:program/lib') in /var/www/localhost/htdocs/roundcube/program/include/main.inc on line 35 Warning: rcmail_startup(config/db.inc.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /var/www/localhost/htdocs/roundcube/program/include/main.inc on line 40 Warning: rcmail_startup(): Failed opening 'config/db.inc.php' for inclusion (include_path='/usr/lib/php/php:program:program/lib') in /var/www/localhost/htdocs/roundcube/program/include/main.inc on line 40 --- I had to create a link named config in roundcube/program/include pointing to ../../config/ Now I can see the login form but I can't login (Login failed)... There are no entries in the log files (the files are writable by the apache user) I guess this problem is related to "Re: Nevermind -- Fwd: Install problem". I have courier-imap running over SSL. regards, Stefan

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