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Re: [RCU] RC does reply properly to mailing list post!
by Kaz Kylheku 16 Jan '14

16 Jan '14

On 16.01.2014 13:11, Reindl Harald wrote: > i get really tired of such amount of no clue > > *this* is the RFC for mailing-list-headers > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4021#section-2.1.35 [1] > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2369 [2] > > *these* are the list-headers of the roundcube list Those RFC's do not spell out what a mail client is supposed to do exactly with each of these fields. They just provide some information. > List-Id: Roundcube Users mailing list <users.lists.roundcube.net> These headers are not present in a direct reply to a mailing list posting; they are only present in the list copy. They can be useful in some obvious ways. For instance, suppose a lurker subscriber is tired of receiving all this off topic crap from the RCU list. The headers can be used in the mail client to provide an easy unsubscribe feature. When the software is displaying an e-mail with this header: List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/options/users>, It can generate some "click here to unsubscribe from the list" type UI or whatever, using the URL. This is useful because noobs often send postings like "please unsubscribe me from this list" to the list remailing address. In the past, before these headers, lists would put footers in every message with the unsubscribe info. (Yet somehow, people still can't find it.) We can remove these footers these days and rely on the headers. If we regard a mailing list generated message as an object, it's good for that object to have some standard properties related to the list and not ad-hoc text in a footer. At least in theory: the question is what properties for what purpose. The RFC proposes a bunch to "cover all the bases", but it's not clear how all of them would be used. Here is a nice use case for the List-Post: header. I could hack my mail client to notice when Reply-To: is set to the list address (Reply-To: contents match the List-Post: contents). This strongly indicates that the list is doing reply-to munging, and the client could automatically fix the situation by scrubbing out Reply-To:, and adding the list address to the Cc:. Without this header, it would be very hard to do this reliably. So these headers can be used to combat the Reply-To disease. What a nice thing! > *any* sane list on this planet have them Yes. For instance the list to which I was having trouble replying (in the root posting of the thread) has these headers too. The presence of these headers is not a magic potion that fixes broken client behaviors and rude mailing list behaviors.

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No history in searchbox with Firefox anymore?
by Michael Heydekamp 16 Jan '14

16 Jan '14

When using IE, I always had a history in the Roundcube searchbox (the previous search terms were displayed and selectable upon typing). Now, with FF 26, this function is gone, and I didn't find any setting to get it back. Any idea? Is this an RC or an FF issue? Cheers, -- Michael Heydekamp Co-Admin freexp.de Düsseldorf/Germany

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Re: [RCU] RC not replying properly to mailing list post.
by Ben Schmidt 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

> so there is no solution satisfy all I agree entirely. > finally *that* is no valid reason for mail duplicates Equally, it is not a valid reason to filter them. We need to recognise people and communities are different, that both behaviours are useful, and valid, and that people who want one kind of behaviour or another are not stupid. >>> the reason someone has sieve filters for lists is that he want >>> filter out list-traffic and not mix it with business email >>> which has a completly different priority in read >> >> Except if a list reply is directly relevant to him, in which case he >> hopes, or even asks, the list to explicitly CC him on any replies so >> they come to his inbox as higher priority mail. > > then he knows the subject and filters *that* thread > so what If he does this regularly, this is a high-effort option he probably does not want to take. It's possible, but it's suboptimal. There is nothing wrong with him wanting to do it differently. >>>> In Thunderbird, the "Reply All" button turns into a "Reply List" >>>> button when a mailing list is detected >>> >>> no, i have three buttons >>> >>> * reply >>> * reply-all >>> * reply-list >>> >>> guess why - because it are 3 different actions and reasons >> >> Screen shot attached for your examination. >> >> I don't know why it is different; maybe because my screen is smaller >> than yours, or because the platform is different > > because i take the time to configure my software > in mozilla products you can configure your toolbar simple by drag&drop Well that tells us absolutely nothing about what I wrote about, which was the trends in mail clients, does it? I agree with you though, it makes sense for them to be separate. I usually use the keyboard shortcuts, which are separate. Best regards, Ben.

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Re: [RCU] RC not replying properly to mailing list post.
by Kaz Kylheku 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

Wake up and look at this: Reply-To: Roundcube Users mailing list <users(a)lists.roundcube.net> The RCU mailing list stamps this idiocy on everything that passes through it. The mailing list for mail-related software is doing Reply-To munging. What's wrong with this picture? That explains why the same people think it's a good idea to have a "Reply List" button. On 14.01.2014 17:02, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 15.01.2014 01:46, schrieb Kaz Kylheku: > >> I don't agree with "Reply All" doing a "Reply List" if a mailing list is detected. The proper way to reply to a mailing list is "Reply All". Which means ... *There is absolutely no need for a "Reply List" misfeature.* *For users who really want this, the button should be called "Click here to reply in a moronic way if you think that RFC stands for some sort of fried chicken franchise".* > > WHICH RFC ARE YOU REFERING? > THERE ARE *MANY* IN CASE OF EMAIL STANDARDS > YOU ARE THE MORON! Someone who thinks that RFC stands for some kind of R. Fried Chicken is obviously ignorant of all of them.

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Horde Groupware migration to Roundcube
by zoney1409 14 Jan '14

14 Jan '14

Hi all, I have a large Horde installation (several million mailboxes, contacts, rules, etc.) and would like to migrate to Roundcube 0.9.5 , does anyone have any suggestions for moving the contacts (turba) and rules (ingo) en masse ? Thanks very much -- View this message in context: http://roundcube-webmail.10982.n7.nabble.com/Horde-Groupware-migration-to-R… Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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single user unable to safe column preferences
by Prager, Bernd 13 Jan '14

13 Jan '14

All, One particular user is not able to safe his column preferences. I am not sure what causes this. Can I reset the user preferences? Is this a good idea? How would I do that? Thank you for any help, -- Bernd

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carddac plugin cron
by Martin Mazur 12 Jan '14

12 Jan '14

Hello everyone, I am using roundcube 0.7.2-9+deb7u1 on Debian stable and managed to install the carddav plugin. It is working as expected but I can't get the cron sync to work. When I call: php -f /usr/share/roundcube/plugins/carddav/cronjob/synchronize.php I get the following error message: #MDB2 Error: not found (-4): no RDBMS driver specified #PHP Fatal error: Class 'carddav' not found in /usr/share/roundcube/plugins/carddav/cronjob/synchronize.php on line 119 But roundcube is able to access my tables and the plugin also populated the tables carddav_server and carddav_contacts. Anyone got this working? Thanks & best regards Martin -- Martin Mazur mail(a)martin-mazur.net

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SMTP
by Dave Moore 07 Jan '14

07 Jan '14

Hi Conditions: Using Xeams mailserver Roundcube permits remote login and can see all email Can't send from account as relay is not permitted Have an authenticated SMTP account on a different server Q. How do I login to Roundcube account on one server but send from another SMTP account? Best Dave m :O) Happy New Year!!

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roundcube accessibility
by Simon Eigeldinger 07 Jan '14

07 Jan '14

Hi all, I am a blind guy currently testing roundcube. well actually i used the demo installation. I was able to read email though i have no clue how to select multiple messages to delete or move in the messages list. I just was able to test this on roundcube 0.9.x. how has the interface changed in 1.0 beta versions? i guess with the newest technologies we could make roundcube fully accessible. greetings, simon --- Diese E-Mail ist frei von Viren und Malware, denn der avast! Antivirus Schutz ist aktiv. http://www.avast.com

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(no subject)
by Estevao 07 Jan '14

07 Jan '14

Como faço para verificar usuario e senha de um login webmail no roundcube, pois quando tento acessá-lo aparece msg "lOGIN INVALID"? Grato! Só os que arriscam ir mais longe descobrem até onde se pode chegar. Thomas Stearns Eliot Um TFA Estevão .´.

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